Talk:Tokyo Rose

Popular Culture

Comment:Could someone please add performance piece Tokyo Rose by L.A.-based, Japan-born performance artist Rika Ohara in the “Popular Culture” section (because I obviously can’t)?

The multimedia dance performance piece juxtaposed Iva Toguri’s life and America’s late 20th-century “trade war with Japan”-era headlines, to highlight the history of the East-West relations through WWII and to the late 20th century.

The performance piece premiered in April 1993 at Los Angeles Contemporary Exhibitions: https://welcometolace.org/lace/rika-oharatokyo-rose/

Here is the IMDb for the video documentation (published 2013): https://pro.imdb.com/title/tt30027233/?ref_=nm_filmo_pastfilmvid_3

Here’s the YouTube documentation. YouTube had kept the whole video muted by mistake for 10 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QWsRMUzQRQ&t=29s

Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rika Ohara (talk • contribs) 18:36, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! Rika Ohara (talk) 01:22, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

In fact, there must be a lot more in the culture at large about her... Ahoraho (talk) 16:05, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Fonda

Comment: Unless Wikipedia is interested in being accused of more unprofessional bias, it might be worth considering the removal of Jane Fonda's name from this article. Jane Fonda was a peace activist, not a propaganda radio announcer, and is not an approprate link in this article. I open this up for discussion... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.243.1.102 (talk • contribs) 01:25, 17 December 2005

Couldn't agree more. I'm removing Fonda here and at Hanoi Hannah. 68.161.30.236 02:55, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Conspiracy theory

Uncited text I removed from the article. Gamaliel 18:05, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Some conspiracy theorists have suggested[citation needed] that aviatrix Amelia Earhart was forced to make propaganda broadcasts after her disappearance in 1937, based on the possibility that Earhart's plane went down in the South Pacific Mandate area, which was under Japanese Navy administration before World War II.

That theory is mentioned in the article on Earhart.--69.151.14.173 (talk) 22:32, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Person vs. role

I was tidying up these pages and there is an issue with confusing the entry of Tokyo Rose with the Iva Toguri D'Aquino, the woman who was tried as "Tokyo Rose." My suggestion is that the Tokyo Rose page should be about the figure of Tokyo Rose (there was no real person) and that a better biography of Iva Toguri D'Aquino be completed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Salishsea (talk • contribs) 19:00, 12 July 2005

NPR All Things Considered reported, in the last quarter hour of their 2-hr feed today, that

1. witnesses at her trial later admitted they perjured themselves in testifying she had reported ship sinkings in her broadcasts,
2. she had been talked into participating by American PoWs working on the show who said they were undermining the show's effectiveness, and
3. they promised her that they would limit her role so she need say nothing disloyal, and they delivered on that.

At [1] NPR promise, in abt 1.25 hr, on-line availability of the audio. The most valuable portion of their abstract there reads "Melissa Block talks with Ronald Yates, whose stories in The Chicago Tribune helped D'Aquino win her pardon", and Googling either

"Chicago Tribune" "Ronald Yates" "Tokyo Rose"

or

"Ronald Yates" "Tokyo Rose"

gave the same three hits, with abstracts of potential interest.
--Jerzy•t 22:14, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Listening to Canadian Radio just now (As It Happens), they say that Iva Toguri D'Aquino never said anything treasonous, that her scripts were written by U.S. POWs, and that "Tokyo Rose" was a generic name to refer to 12 different women broadcasters. Here's a link to the show for that date. I believe this would be in part 2, but I'm not sure, it might be the tail end of part 1. Might be a very useful source for improving an article that looks basically wrong, though the NPR material, etc. above may do the same. - Jmabel | Talk 06:40, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

The entire section concerning Iva Toguri is out of date in comparison with the primary article under her name. I intend to delete all under her section but a stub and force the reader to go to her main page. I will do so on 2 Dec 2007 unless someone states their objections here. In addition, the top line of this page cites 20 female broadcasters bearing that name and the Iva Toguri article cites 12. Which number do people want, and can we cite anything to support that number? Unclesmrgol 04:22, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

See Also section

This section doesn't appear to belong here; there is a category called "Propagandists" and these entries might profitably be placed there. Otherwise, I see no reason why any of these others will shed any light on Tokyo Rose. This probably should be deleted, and similar entries removed in the other references that are linked here. These people have nothing in common except their category and there is nothing useful to be learned about each of them at the others' pages. CraigBurley 17:12, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Tokyo Rose, the band

"Tokyo Rose also is the name of a band hailing from New Jersey."
"There is an emo/pop band that goes by the name Tokyo Rose"

Are these references to the same band? PBuG 13:29, 15 October 2006 (CST)

Movies / documentary

I changed "a movie and a documentary" to "two movies and a documentary", since there appears to be two movies right underneath it. I dunno if they actually exist. --Staos 23:41, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

More actresses?

Excuse teh term 'actresses' Only thing I could think of.

We have listed one actress who did the broadcasts but mention that there were at least 20 of them. Anyone have any more? Might be of interest.

Tokyo Rose the Drink

1 Part Melon Liquor / 1 Part Grey Goose Vodka / 1 Part Sake. Shaken in a shaker with crushed ice and served in a cocktail glass with a flower garnish.
Drink was first created in 1986 in a Dallas Texas nightclub called The Starck Club by a bar tended by the name of Scott Mertz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.177.144.217 (talk) 00:47, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

What was the propaganda?

What did these women say to try to demoralize Allied troops? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.124.88.244 (talk) 08:01, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

There is more information about Lord Haw Haw, and I guess that the techniques may have been similar.

What was the equivalent in the other direction?

What were the allied radio show or shows that transmitted to Japan?--Timtak (talk) 03:20, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

There are at least some brief recordings, apparently

The article text says there is no recording of a 'Tokyo Rose' broadcast, but this web page has a couple of short sound clips that are claimed to be taken from 'Tokyo Rose' broadcasts. http://www.earthstation1.com/Tokyo_Rose.html 72.130.43.20 (talk) 07:40, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

• I think the text there is intended to convey the idea that there are no recordings or transcripts of broadcasts containing "purported predictions of impending attacks" or naming individual soldiers, rather than there being no recordings at all. Much like with Lord Haw-Haw, there were rumours and stories of predictions of actual attacks, but they were rumours; it would be unlikely that propaganda stations would give details of actual planned attacks, for obvious reasons. But there are recordings of broadcasts in general of course; apart from the link above, there are (for example) a couple of recordings on the Internet Archive site in the External Links section. FlowerpotmaN·(t) 19:07, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

What kinds of things were in the broadcasts?

Other than saying they were propaganda designed to harm Allied morale, the article says nothing except that there were rumors they predicted attacks, though it goes on to say that no such predictions are in recordings or transcripts of the broadcasts. What kinds of things are found in the recordings and transcripts then? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.151.14.173 (talk) 23:19, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Pardon of Iva Toguri D'Aquino by President Ford not mentioned

The related article "Iva Toguri D'Aquino", states that she was pardoned by President Ford on his last day in office. Since she is featured so prominently in this article, shouldn't this article mention that same bit of historical information?

Autryld (talk) 22:17, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

This has been fixed - but I do feel troubled that Iva Toguri does have such a prominent part of the article - especially the mugshot in the header. It takes a careful reader, and a read of her article, to get to the bottom of the story, and I don't think that does her justice. Stevebritgimp (talk) 01:46, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Not sure what happened in the last 18 months, but looking at this article it still appears to associate Tokyo Rose with Iva Toguri, so have added the appropriate paragraph to the lede. Stevebritgimp (talk) 22:40, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Problem with the lead

Someone removed three references from the lead and inserted the character string [n] in their places. Info is available in archived versions of the page. Suggest re-incorporating these references. David F (talk) 15:54, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Fixed here. Thanks for the heads-up. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 19:19, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Maintenance Template

As of 5 March 17, this article has been flagged for "multiple issues" regarding citations and references. I recently overhauled the page and I believe these problems are amended. I intend to remove the maintenance template in 7 days (13 March 2017) unless anyone disagrees. B.d.whitney (talk) 15:02, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Tokyo Mose

There is a section in this article that refers to Walter Kraner. That section's title says "Tokyo Rose", when it should state "Tokyo Mose", as that was what he was called. I attempted to fix that, but my edit was removed. I think that section's title/header should be corrected, as the error makes makes the article confusing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.145.42.121 (talk) 11:51, 4 April 2017 (UTC) Fixed it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CamoPants (talk • contribs) 00:40, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Photo in lead

Okay, I understand that the common misidentification of Miss Toguri as "Tokyo Rose" requires her to be mentioned in the article, but it doesn't seem right to have her photo be at the top of the article. The main image in an article is supposed to represent the subject, the text of the article (and even the caption of this image) states that Miss Toguri was not Tokyo Rose. --Khajidha (talk) 11:18, 12 October 2017 (UTC)