Talk:Tom Hatton (actor)

Notability and sourcing

As I've made clear during a discussion at [Wikipedia:Help desk#Tom Hatton avoiding redirect], I feel there are significant problems with this article, both in establishing that the individual meets Wikipedia notability guidelines, and with regard to sourcing. Looking at notability first, the relevant guideline is WP:NACTOR:

Actors, voice actors, comedians, opinion makers, models, and celebrities:

1. Has won a well-known and significant industry award, or has been nominated for such an award several times. Nominations and awards in scene-related and ensemble categories are excluded from consideration.

2. Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following.

3. Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment.

* See WP:MUSIC for guidelines on musicians, composers, groups, etc.

I cannot see anything obvious in the article to suggest that Hatton meets any of these criteria.

Regarding sourcing, there are several problems:

morleycollege.ac.uk. A college website - no evidence of any significant editorial control, and of little merit in establishing notability.

Variety. This mentions Hatton once, in passing.

designtaxi.com This appears to be a website for user-submitted content. In any case, Hatton is again only mentioned in passing.

Screen Asia? A broken link...

screendaily.com Behind a paywall, so I can't access it at present. However, the headline "Sky announces Sky Atlantic as ‘home of HBO’ in UK" clearly indicates that it isn't about Hatton as such.

YouTube: Unless it is entirely clear that the material has been placed online by the copyright holder, we should not be linking to YouTube etc at all, as a matter of policy - I will delete this link accordingly until the copyright status can be properly ascertained.

IMDB. As their disclaimer makes clear, the material on IMDB is submitted by third parties, and they take no responsibility for content - on that basis, we don't accept IMDB as a reliable source.

Given the problems with sourcing noted above, I have to suggest that unless more evidence, from more appropriate sources is provided that Hatton meets our notability guidelines, deletion seems the only credible option. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:41, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

there are several "local boy makes it big" stories. [1] [2] [3] [4] dont know if they count as "significant coverage" -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 15:56, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Added some better sourcing on this actor from newspaper stories

Poptriviaking (talk) 21:08, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Added additional sourcing on actor. Is this page autobiographical? 108.12.151.12 (talk) 19:55, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

If I recall User:Hattock79 claimed to be the subject and agent or some other connection; and a later editor also identified themselves as the actor. I dont think either has formally been identified by OTRS. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:32, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

If you are really curious, I could do more careful looking and find the diffs. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:41, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion

Hi As the subject of the article I would like to request that the page Tom Hatton (actor) be deleted. The warnings suggest that the article does not help Wikipedia and the warnings are detrimental to me. I am able to be contacted via skype to validate my identity.

Regards,

Tom Hatton Cinematicwl (talk) 17:09, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

There was a discussion on whether to delete this article; the conclusion was that there was not a consensus to delete it. Cinematicwl: even if you are (as you claim) Tom Hatton, your own wishes have nothing to do with whether you are notable enough for an article to be written about you. I suggest that you read WP:BOOMERANG, as well as the article on the Streisand effect. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:20, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Mike, the discussion at the top says it was closed "no consensus". Was there another discussion? --j⚛e decker^talk 21:35, 1 February 2013 (UTC)