Talk:Tom Walker (singer)
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"Just You and I"
editHey, just wanted to get a discussion going about "Just You and I" and whether the 2017 (acoustic) and 2019 releases really need to be separated out here in the discography table.
I am arguing that the two should be grouped together because:
- Re-released singles vary rarely get counted twice in artists' discographies on Wikipedia (e.g., Tom Grennan's "Found What I've Been Looking For"), though of course there are notably exceptions (e.g., Sam Smith's "Lay Me Down", but only because the re-release featuring John Legend for Red Nose Day in the UK charted and was certified separately).
- As far as I can tell, sales of "Just You and I" to date have been combined. Subscription-only data from Music Week that I saw the other week put the song at ~177,000 chart sales; and it's almost impossible for all of these to have come from the 2019 release only (given that it came out on 11 January 2019).
I propose that instead of grouping the two together, an article for the single itself be created (there's certainly cause for it, now that it's a charting, and soon to be BPI-certified, single); and that within the article a clear distinction can be made between 2017 and 2019 releases.
@Tbone49: Looping you in here as I know you made the original edit separating out the two versions, and want to get your thoughts on the matter. @Ss112: Looping you in too, in case you wanted to follow the discussion.
LCCM Student
editThis edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
I'm connected to Tom Walker so can't make this edit myself.
Tom is a graduate of London College of Contemporary Media, class of 2014.
This is sourced to Gigslutz. [1]
This is also sourced to the LCCM website [2]
I recommend: "Tom graduate from London College of Contemporary Media in 2014."
Can someone please add this?
Thanks Samsywoodsy (talk) 14:43, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
References
- ^ Gigslutz. [www.gigslutz.co.uk/brand-new-state-art-music-venue-open-central-london/ Brand new, state of the art, music venue to open in Central London], Gigslutz. Retrieved 21 February 2019
- ^ LCCM. Tom Walker 2014 – Songwriter and Artist, Retrieved 21 February 2019
Reply 21-FEB-2019
edit- To state simply that the subject graduated from an institution is only half the story. When one graduates, one typically receives a document stating what the person has graduated with. This is not specified in the provided sources.
- Please clarify what degree and/or accomplishment the subject graduated from LCCM with. When ready to proceed with the requested information, kindly change the
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. Thank you!
Regards, Spintendo 23:52, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Tom Walker (singer)
editI check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Tom Walker (singer)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "BPI":
- From Naughty Boy: "Certified Awards" (enter "Naughty Boy" into the "Keywords" box, then select "Search"). British Phonographic Industry. Retrieved 4 September 2013.
- From Catfish and the Bottlemen: "Catfish and the Bottlemen Communion". BPI. January 2013.
- From Rudimental discography: "Certified Awards Search" (To access, enter the search parameter "Rudimental" and select "Search"). British Phonographic Industry. Retrieved 5 December 2013.
- From Zara Larsson discography: "British certifications – Zara Larsson". British Phonographic Industry. Retrieved 13 October 2017. Type Zara Larsson in the "Search BPI Awards" field and then press Enter.
- From Yazoo (band): "BPI Awards – Certified Awards Search". Retrieved 8 March 2018. Type "Yazoo" into "Search BPI Awards" box and press "Enter".
- From British Phonographic Industry: Gallup (4 February 1989). "The Top of the Pops Chart" (PDF). Record Mirror: 4. Retrieved 16 July 2010.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 22:33, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
Place of Tom's birth
editCurious as to the place where he was born. I was sure Kilsyth wasn't part of Glasgow...? LANDALES (talk) 10:09, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- I always thought Kilsyth was closer to Stirling than Glasgow, odd. - Joesimnett (talk) 10:12, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- So why does he sing in that strange, trans-European accent? Nuttyskin (talk) 12:21, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
Content of first sentence
editThe nationality used in this article has been British for the some time now and also for most of the article's existence, barring anonymous IP edits. It has been changed recently to Scottish with a reference. I disagree with this as - has been said previously - there are also numerous references available that identify him as British. Further the WP:UKNATIONALS guidelines discourage making changes to longstanding status for UK citizens without particular reasons arising and consensus. I don't see any necessity to proceed along these lines.--Politovsky (talk) 18:08, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- It's irrelevant the amount of time the article has identified him as British. Unsourced information doesn't suddenly become more valid after a certain amount of time.
- It's irrelevant that edits have been made by anonymous IP editors. Edits by signed in users don't automatically have more weight.
- If you think there is a reference that identifies him as "British" that you think has great validity that his own website, then please provide it.
- WP:UKNATIONALS is an essay. Not a policy or a guideline.
Genre
editI'm sorry, but Tom Walker is no way indie folk, indie pop or indie rock. Firstly, the rock sounds he employs in production is a mainstream stadium rock sound, not indie rock such as Pavement, R.E.M., Pixies, Arctic monkeys or the Strokes. Next indie pop takes influences from Indie rock and culture - Tame impala, Vampire Weekend, Feist, Florence and the Machine, which Tom Walker does not. Indie folk is more Elliott smith, Bon Iver, Laura Marling, Bill Callahan which is a more rustic lofi approach to folk derived from indie 90's culture. Tom Walker instead follows the vein of Ed sheeran, with hip hop-esque rhythms, poppy, (somewhat clichéd) chord structures, and EDM-pop style production. I'm grouping it instead in folk-pop (Ed sheeran), rock (Imagine dragons) and pop-rock (OneRepublic). Hebog cy (talk) 16:30, 8 August 2021 (UTC)