Talk:Toona ciliata

T. australis -> T. ciliata

I moved the content from the "Toona australis" article to Toona ciliata, as the australian Toona and the asian T. ciliata have been clumped and they both are now treated under the name T. ciliata. I also redirected Toona australis to Toona ciliata. Krasanen (talk) 19:19, 18 March 2008 (UTC) I moved also the information about the largest recorded T. ciliata specimen from Toona to Toona ciliata. Krasanen (talk) 19:45, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Just on "few deciduous trees" - in Monsoon Forests in Northern Australia the percentage of deciduous trees in the canopy is usually less than half, but in one case reaches 57%. In other parts of Australia there are also many semi-deciduous trees. - Tony 3rd February 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.1.205.130 (talk) 10:27, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Tun wood

"Tun wood" redirects here but is not mentioned anywhere in the article, which is always disconcerting. Sitar refers to tun wood as "Cedrela tuna ... which is a variation of mahogany". Is Cedrela tuna the same as the subject of this article or is it something different? What does "variation of mahogany" mean? Should it say "variety of mahogany"?

Oops, sorry, I didn't notice it was mentioned in the infobox, but spelled as "Cedrela toona". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.209.200 (talk) 21:19, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Toon

I'm not knowledgable about this subject myself, but all three dictionaries that I've found the word in say that "toon" is Cedrela toona or Toona ciliata (which I understand both refer to the tree that is the subject of this article). See [1], [2], [3]. This source, cited in the article, also says that "toon", by itself, refers to Toona ciliata and not other trees. However, the mention of the name "toon" in this article was removed with the comment that "toon/tun are common names of the entire genus". This seems to contradict all the sources that I've mentioned, so was it definitely correct to remove it? 86.176.211.137 (talk) 02:25, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Hm. I've restored the "toon" part with a note. Since like the name "red cedar", it is actually not species-specific as early English usage implies. This is also known as the Indian toon for example. There's also a Chinese toon. And prior to being recognized as a synonym, the Australian population of this species was known as Australian toon. The rest of the names you added, however, more accurately applies to Toona sureni. Though like all members of this genus, their common names seem to be interchanged a lot in the timber trade, since they are extremely similar and all are sources for valuable fragrant red wood.-- OBSIDIAN†SOUL 03:29, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, yeah, it does seem complicated. I was researching this topic a while ago in relation to sitar construction and thoroughly confused myself about exactly which wood they meant by "toon" or "tun". By the way, do you have any thoughts about "Indian mahogany"? This still directs here, but it is no longer mentioned, which is not ideal. 86.176.211.137 (talk) 04:29, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

I've re-added that as well, heh. I turned the Indian mahogany page into a disambiguation page though. Since it can refer to a few different species. Cheers. -- OBSIDIAN†SOUL 22:51, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Great, thanks for doing that. 86.151.119.220 (talk) 21:33, 21 December 2013 (UTC)