Talk:Tornerò (Mihai Trăistariu song)

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Tbhotch in topic GA Review
Good articleTornerò (Mihai Trăistariu song) has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
May 15, 2018Good article nomineeNot listed
April 7, 2019Good article nomineeListed
August 7, 2019Good topic candidatePromoted
October 28, 2022Good topic removal candidateDemoted
Current status: Good article

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A broken link: http://www.eurovision.tv/english/396.htm
Vadik wiki 17:02, 15 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Tornerò (Mihai Trăistariu song)/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Tbhotch (talk · contribs) 19:46, 30 March 2019 (UTC)Reply


GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality (prose is clear and concise, without exceeding quotations, or spelling and grammar errors):  
    B. MoS compliance (included, but not limited to: lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists):  
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources (it also includes an appropriate reference section):  
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary (including direct quotations):  
    C. No original research:  
    D. No copyright violations:  
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:  
    B. Focused:  
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. Is it stable?
    edit wars, multiple edits not related to the GAN process, etc. (this excludes blatant vandalism):  
  6. Does it contain images (or other media) to illustrate (or support) the topic?
    A. Images (and other media) are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:  
    B. Images (and other media) are provided where possible and are relevant, with suitable captions:  
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:  
Resolved comments from Tbhotch
;Lead
  • "Cristian Hriscu, Mihaela Deac and Eduard Cîrcotă, who also produced the song" -> It is unclear who produced it.
  Done Wrote it better now
  • "and reached the top 10 in Finland and Greece, and"
  Done
  • The lead seems short
  Done I tried to expand a bit, but this is all I can do
Background
  • "strophes" -> verses
  Done
  • " later included on his eighth studio album of the same name" -> It works on the lead as the title is there, but here is not.
  Done
Critical reception
  • "Tornerò" received generally positive reviews from music critics upon its release." -> This kind of sentences work on the lead because you are summarizing the article for the readers. On the article itself, instead, they are not required as readers can assess the sources provided.
  Done Removed the sentence
  • favorites -> Any reason to use American English?
  Done No, I've changed it to BE
  • "while Libertatea wrote" -> Libertatea didn't "write" it, a writer did
  Done
  • "[in the Eurovision Song Contest 2006]" -> this can be simplified
  Done
  • criticized -> Same as above
  Done
  • "critici[s]ed Trăistariu's accent in the song" -> It says diction. Diction can be affected by multiple things
  Done I changed it to "diction" then
  • "Nick Francis of The Sun" -> is the Sun a reliable source?
It's listed as a potentially unreliable sources if it presents controversial information. As it's not the case here, I guess we can leave it in place since it's only a review of a song.
Commercial performance
  • "received well" -> backwards
  Done
  Done Changed the link
  • "San Francisco, United States" -> San Francisco, California, there are dozens of SF in that country
  Done
  • Suomen virallinen lista chart -> Suomen virallinen lista chart, as foreign text
  Done
  • "the song sold over one million units worldwide according to Trăistariu" -> Trăistariu is not a reliable source for this
  Done Removed
  • "Greek singer Anna Vissi (pictured in 2007) recorded a cover version of "Tornerò", among other artists." -> If you put "Among other artists" first, you can read why the wording is incorrect
  Done I just removed "among other artists" completely.
National selection
  • "On 26 February 2006, the Selecția Națională was held in order to select the Romanian entrant for the Eurovision Song Contest 2006"
  Done
  • "which remains their highest score until"
  Done I guess(?)
Track listing
  • "Scandinavian/Romanian CD single[36][6]"
  Done
Release history
  • Scandinavia - 30 August 2006 -> The CD single includes the release date?
  Done No, and it's probably unreliable. Changed to "N/A 2006".
Category
  • Disco songs appears but not the other 3 genres
  Done Rave doesn't have a category, but others I've added
  • 2006 singles missing
  Done
References
  • Some links, like BBC or ProQuest, are overlinked
I tend to think that we should link every published individually per reference, even if mentioned beforehand in another reference. If a user is to access ref #5, and publisher X isn't linked because it was in ref #3, well, then it's not the best option I guess. But you decide.
  Done
  • Source 14, ProQuest: the same
  Done
  • Source 24, Fricker: You should use {{cite book}} and its parameters instead
  Done
  • Source 35: CD 5051011654350 does not indicate an inclusion of a music video in the tracks. According to this article 0094637051726 is. However "0094637051726" does not offer results on the net.
[1] Here you can see pictures of the CD tha was issued, with the artwork showing the inclusion of the music video.
  • "number 38 on the native Romanian Top 100, and at number four" -> MOS:NUMNOTES
I'm confused here. I always thought that you are supposed to write out numbers from one to ten, and then write numbers from 11 to ... as numbers. Should I change everything to numbers or should I write EVERYTHING out?
"Integers from zero to nine are spelled out in words", however, when comparing, you should choose either style "thirty-eight and four" or "38 and 4", but they shouldn't mix. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 18:04, 6 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
Promotion
  • "endeavours" -> [2]
I don't quite get your comment here, I'm sorry.
"endeavours" as a noun means "A sincere attempt; a determined or assiduous effort towards a specific goal". I don't think it is the right word to use here. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 18:04, 6 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • "were done by artists including Greek recording artist Anna Vissi" -> WP:SONGCOVER
I read the article, but I tend to think that those singers are really notable, especially Lora, and I think removing the facts that they've covered it it somehow wrong. But you decide.
In this case I agree with WP:SONGCOVER. If you can get any non-primary reliable source saying that, then it could be added. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 18:04, 6 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • "12 awarded by Moldova and Spain, as well as ten", same as above
See above.
  • Source 41: "2006.CS1"
I don't quite know what you mean by this. I'm sorry.
@Cartoon network freak: It may need an space there. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 18:04, 6 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Sorry for the delay, I've been busy. Article on hold. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 03:40, 6 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Tbhotch: Hi and thank you for the review !!   I have answered to all of your comments. Greetings; Cartoon network freak (talk) 09:16, 6 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Tbhotch: Hi again! I've fixed all the other comments, but could you please do the correction in ref#41 for me? I still can't see the issue... Greetings; Cartoon network freak (talk) 19:26, 6 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
It might've been a bug or something, because I can't see it either. Anyway, as I have no other concern I pass its GA nomination. Good work. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 04:25, 7 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Tbhotch: Hi and thank you for passing this article!   Is there any chance you could also review this one? Disregard if you're too busy... Greetings; Cartoon network freak (talk) 10:52, 7 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Cartoon network freak:, I can do that but until next week, if you don't have a problem with it. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 18:49, 7 April 2019 (UTC)Reply