Talk:Tortellini

Wikipedia is the new One Thousand and One Nights?

Since when has Wikipedia become a folktale encyclopedia? The section on origins is completely irrelevant and has absolutely no factual data beyond two legends and a single sentence about the "most likely" origin. It is my humble opinion that if nobody knows where the tortellini comes from, the section should be removed instead of being filled with folktales. --129.34.20.19 (talk) 18:28, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Vodka Sauce

"specifically vodka sauce." What? Sorry, I am from Bologna and I have never seen tortellini served with any kind of sauce. The official recipy is tortellini in brodo (with broth), quite common (especially in the house and family cooking) also the use of cream (tortellini alla panna) even if not totally accepted by the traditional chefs. In the rest of the world you can see tortellini served with any kind of sauce (tomato sauce, vodka sauce, gasoline sauce) but I would not mention it in the article! --Biopresto 07:53, 29 July 2005 (UTC) I'm Italian and I really don't care what you put on it. In Italy there are several 'foreign' products that are called certain things but have no real resemblance to the original, but who cares. I am eating tortellini right now with a sauce made of fresh tomatoes, mushrooms, eggplant, zucchini, mushrooms and YES corned beef :D. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.142.246.93 (talk) 01:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Belly Button?

"Tortellini also represents the bellybutton of Venus, the Goddess of Love in Roman mythology (Aphrodite in Greek mythology)." - Could anyone please cite source or confirm? It sounds pretty... strange to me. Tribaal 13:14, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

That's just a legend: it is said that a bolognese (or modenese) cook invented that shape inspired by the bellybutton of Venus (or in another version of Lucrezia Borgia). In fact the origin of that shape is unknown. --Biopresto 12:40, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Interesting legend! --Tribaal 08:02, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

This sentance makes no sense:

However this myth can be challenged by the fact that the pasta was invented in the middle ages in the north of Italy where Rome had no rule.

Well, first of all, of course it can be challenged! Nobody thinks Venus and Jupiter actually came to an inn. That's why it's a myth. Second, if we did believe that they came down, then it would make no difference whether it was in the middle ages or not! The "challenge" given is for a much more minor point than the actual point, and it doesn't need a challenge anyway! Removed. — Asbestos | Talk (RFC) 21:50, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

I fully agree. By the way, Bologna (but not Modena) was indeed under the control of Rome (the Pope) even if the citizens and the Bentivoglio were not really happy about that. --Biopresto 12:26, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Lesser "exotic" variants

The use of "lesser" here seems to be POV, as is "exotic" (possibly). Removing the "lesser". Nda98 09:26, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Tortelloni

What are Tortelloni doing in this article? It's a different type of pasta, different shape, different stuffing, different way of serving. Only the name is similar (thay have the same root). It's like putting fettuccine and spaghetti togheter. --Biopresto 12:17, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I have moved that part to tortelloni--Biopresto 08:27, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Recipe

Please before writing absurdities regardin the recipes and the suffing would you pleasde discuss it here?--Biopresto 08:27, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Difference?

I'm not really clear from the articles what the difference between Tortellini and Tortelloni is. Could someone who knows clear this up and explain in the articles? Thanks. Andrewferrier 19:01, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Ring shaped?

I don't find the description "ring shaped" in the lead to be very accurate. Anyone care to defend it before I change it? Thanks.Ccrrccrr (talk) 23:11, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Cappelletti

So what's the difference between tortellini and cappelletti? If no one comes up with one, I'll add it as a name variant. 137.146.170.214 (talk) 22:04, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

The Truth About Tortellini

Both the article and the discussion about tortellini contain information that is valuable to me as an uninformed consumer of tortellini. The fact that people argue about tortellini is every bit as important to me as the "basic" information about this type of pasta. In particular, the bellybutton reference answers my question about how common the bellybutton simile is in the general population. When my children were very young, I referred to tortellini soup as "bellybutton soup," and today I was looking for corroboration of this idea. I found that corroboration on Wikipedia, not on Britannica. If a rumor exists about any subject I'm interested in, then that rumor is of interest to me. It's part of the story.

No story about Elvis would be complete without mention of the rumors concerning his reappearance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dnedwards (talk • contribs) 00:35, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

All around the world?

"Tortellini are now commonly found all around the world." Is it true? Any references for that? Are they available in China, Russia, Central Asia, Africa, Near East? The Asian countries have so many own varieties of dumplings (see e.g. Template:Dumplings), that I'm not sure if tortellini can easily be found there. Should one write "commonly found in all Western countries"? --Off-shell (talk) 19:40, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Made a few tweaks which I suspect restores the original, which seems to have been mangled. European based production lines providing for a world wide demand. Still need cites though. Article has been neglected for a few years. See what you think. Irondome (talk) 04:01, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

OK. I removed one more misleading sentence. --Off-shell (talk) 11:00, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Nutrition data?

The section on "nutrition data" is in my views to be removed because it is based on an industrially-produced, packed variety of tortellini filled with cheese. Not only this is not the traditional filling used in tortellini, but considering all the various non-traditional variations to be found outside of Italy, this is just one of the possible filling one would find in packaged ones. As the nutritional value strongly depends on the content of the filling, and whether the dough is prepared (as per tradition) with egg or not (or even depending on the number of eggs used), it is a largely inaccurate and thus meaningless information.--Desyman (talk) 15:00, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Traditionally stuffed with pork or poultry ?

To quote a source: "In 2019, the archbishop of Bologna suggested adding some pork-free “welcome tortellini” to the menu at the city’s San Petronio feast. It was intended as a gesture of inclusion, inviting Muslim citizens to participate in the celebrations of the city’s patron saint. Far-right League party leader Matteo Salvini wasn’t on board. “They’re trying to erase our history, our culture,” he said. When Grandi intervened to clarify that, until the late 19th century, tortellini filling didn’t contain pork, the president of Bologna’s tortellini consortium confirmed that Grandi was right. In the oldest recipes, tortellini filling is made from poultry.""

Lead should be updated to reflect this.

source: https://www.ft.com/content/6ac009d5-dbfd-4a86-839e-28bb44b2b64c 85.147.66.47 (talk) 22:23, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Singular

Is it a "Tortellino"? 67.231.67.253 (talk) 22:10, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Quotation

I would like to add this quotation: «... l'oste, ch'era guercio e bolognese, imitando di Venere il bellico, l'arte di fare il tortellino apprese.» (present here: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortellini); could someone experienced in adding quotations do it? JacktheBrown (talk) 06:39, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

EXPAND

This article should be EXPANDED (it.wiki references: 45; https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortellini). JacktheBrown (talk) 06:36, 2 June 2024 (UTC)