Talk:Touro University System

Requested move 9 April 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Touro University System (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 04:02, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

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Touro College and University System → Touro University – Charter was amended; Touro College is now Touro University. See Touro College Granted University Status by New York State Board of Regents Puzzledvegetable^{Is it teatime already?} 21:04, 6 April 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 (talk) 01:48, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 20:50, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

• But what about all the other institutions called Touro University and listed at the target title? Dr. Vogel (talk) 05:14, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

  Is there evidence for one being a clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC? If not, Touro University should remain a disamb page, but Touro College and University System should still be renamed to something else. -Kj cheetham (talk) 08:13, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

  Oh neat, this unearthed a duplicate article. I was going to suggest Touro University, New York, but lo and behold there's already an article there about the same topic. It has the same picture and everything. Oops, actually one is just part of the other. The naming of these is going to be difficult. Even outside of Wikipedia, how does it work that the institution renamed the larger system to be the same as the smaller part? -- Fyrael (talk) 18:43, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

  I thought exactly the same myself at first! Maybe Touro University, New York should be Touro College?? The disamb page saying "Touro University is a division of Touro College" just confused me though! -Kj cheetham (talk) 19:18, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

  cool, so what do you guys want to do with this one then? Dr. Vogel (talk) 15:16, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

  Puzzledvegetable, are you able to comment on this? If not, full RM might be the answer to get more eyes on it. -Kj cheetham (talk) 18:45, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

• Support It appears to me that the other articles on the current Touro University dab page are "subsidiaries" / members of the Touro University system, ala, UCLA being a member of the University of California system. Natg 19 (talk) 01:50, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

On 2nd thought, support Touro University System. That seems to be a clearer title for this article. Natg 19 (talk) 00:42, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

• Comment I'm the editor who broke out this article from the Touro College article as there were a half dozen separate schools all using the name Touro, some colleges, some universities, some titled "school" for the various graduate fields. Not all were founded as Touros, some were bought and brought in and re-branded, and some sold or spun off, etc. It's all very chaotic and hard to decipher diachronically especially without relying on primary sources, but I do believe there should be article for 1) the umbrella Touro system, listing the history of these foundings and acquistions, 2) any individual Touro school that is notable (not all of them would be, e.g. I believe the online school was run separate not as the Touro College granting an online degree). I disagree there should be a disambiguation page as that landing page (or several other non-specific common variations) should be redirects to 1 above, the overarching article about the system, if Touro College (the original article) is notable enough on its own to maintain a separate space from the one for the broader university system, but there should not be confusion that the singular institution in NYC formerly College now University is the same thing as the whole Touro operation. Many universities are the top-level organization name, but in this case, the namesake university is just one of many. JesseRafe (talk) 14:30, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
• Move to Touro University System per press release nom linked: Touro University has 35 campuses and locations in New York, California, Nevada [etc.] Touro University California and Touro University Nevada; Touro University Worldwide and its Touro College Los Angeles division; as well as Hebrew Theological College in Skokie, Ill. are separately accredited institutions within the Touro University System (underline added). This article lists Touro California, Nevada, Worldwide, etc., so it is about the Touro University System. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 14:53, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

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