Talk:Toxicity (album)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Ed! (talk · contribs) 21:51, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Nice to see this one at GA. —Ed!^(talk) 22:37, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

In case he doesn't get to this, would be happy to assist the nominator, Statik N. Was extremely active back when he nominated this, but seems a little bit less as of late. Just say the word and I'll jump in. dannymusiceditor ^{Speak up!} 17:48, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

@DannyMusicEditor:, if you could look at it, that would be great! No movement so far. —Ed!^(talk) 03:28, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Will do, but I will finish Evanescence first - should be done tomorrow sometime today or in the next few, I'm starting to fix the outstanding issues here now. dannymusiceditor ^{Speak up!} 18:32, 19 February 2018 (UTC) 04:11, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

@Ed!: I believe everything that's been requested has been done. Let me know if I missed anything or something's unsatisfactory. dannymusiceditor ^{Speak up!} 23:23, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Overall

• Copyvio, dup links and dab links all check out.
• See Checklinks tool. A Revolver link is drawin a 403 error, and it looks like a link from Blender is dead.
• Take another look at the duplicate links in the article. There are quite a few which could be reduced (ie, "heavy metal" is linked twice in the top sentence)

Music, writing and recording

• This section could use a bit more on the specifics on the composition. As you note, Rick Rubin contributed piano to some parts but it would be good to note which, and also to indicate what instruments were use in recording. Would be good to note which songs Rubin was in, and where Serj and Daron each traded off vocals.

These are harder to find then you might think - I'll try but I don't know if I'll find it. dannymusiceditor ^{Speak up!} 17:39, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

• Another notable thing to be included: Like a lot of SOAD music, the album was primarily recorded with drop D tuning.

Kinda same thing here - I'm sure that has to exist somewhere, but I have no idea how to search for its references. All I'm finding are unreliable guitar tab forums and bleeds. dannymusiceditor ^{Speak up!} 17:39, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

As it turns out (!) I happen to own the official guitar tab book. Page 4 can be cited for drop D, here is the book to use for the cite. —Ed!^(talk) 00:11, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

• Any details on the themes of the album artwork?
• One other thing missing: I believe some of the material mentioned that was left out of the album made its way into Steal this Album in one form or another. That article does discuss a bit. Worth noting what material considered here was left for that one.

Critical reception & Commercial performance

• What touring did they do to promote the album? How much did those tours bring in? SOAD article has some references.

Commercial performance

• One huge thing missing: Chop Suey was on the list of songs that got banned from radio after 9/11 which caused a ton of controversy at the time, because it has been released as a single less than a month before 9/11 and, it was argued, getting the block hurt album sales. The song was fast-rising on the Billboard Hot 100 but the ban stopped it at #76, which was a disappointment for SOAD, too. The Chop Suey article has a ref for some of this, but some of it might be elsewhere. Either way, definitely needed here.

Track listing

• Ref needed for main track listing.

I've never seen that as a requirement for album articles, it's the most obvious thing in the list. I would see how an article about an album which hand't been released yet could need one, but this has been around for seventeen years now. dannymusiceditor ^{Speak up!} 17:48, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Can do without, then, I think. —Ed!^(talk) 01:48, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Just seconding Danny on this - usually sources aren't necessary for track lists unless an album is unreleased, or there's something particularly contentious about it. (Alternate releases/track lists etc.) Sergecross73 msg me 18:56, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

• Ref needed for the note on the hidden track.

OK, the changes look good! Passing for GA now, thank you for making these changes! —Ed!^(talk) 01:57, 21 February 2018 (UTC)