Talk:Toyota New Global Architecture

Multiple platforms

TGNA applies to multiple platforms. NGA-B, NGA-C, GA-L. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasoncrowderpuff (talk • contribs) 20:43, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Since the platforms are technically unrelated, this page should just list them with minimal description, and link to new articles for each platform. Then the predecessor platform information (in the separate articles) will make sense, and this article won't get excessively long. brian|bp 23:27, 15 November 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brian abp (talk • contribs)

Tiny articles of 1-3 paragraphs tend to get deleted. More chance of surviving in its current state.  Stepho  talk  12:02, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Proposed split

I propose that this article be split into articles titled Toyota TNGA-B platform, Toyota TNGA-C platform, Toyota TNGA-K platform, Toyota TNGA-L platform and Toyota TNGA-N platform.

My thinking is that there are now five TNGA platforms (B, C, K, L and N) and at least one more on the way. These platforms really deserve their own articles while this page remains to explain the overall Toyota New Global Architecture project. This would be in keeping with the current pages for the B, K, MC and N platforms. --RickyCourtney (talk) 23:31, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Currently oppose What exactly are the purposes of separate articles at the time being? In my humble opinion, the creation of new articles will only add stubs for now, not to mention that there are still many other platforms that are still of little use (GA-B: 3 vehicles, GA-N: currently 1 vehicle (the Mirai isn't entering production yet), and GA-L: 2 vehicles). It's better to be separated if the moment is right, but certainly not for now. 182.30.83.199 (talk) 16:29, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

For the record, it was never my intent to keep this page the same (so the information is duplicated in two places). I was in the middle of that work when you reverted it and responded to the split proposal. There was no discussion on this topic until now. I would like to hear from other editors. --RickyCourtney (talk) 16:52, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Oppose: It is currently a good, managed size that is easy to read and easy to edit. Splitting it up will make it into stubs (as said above) that may be deleted. We should of course make those other names into redirects to here. All other articles should link to the redirect names. When this article gets bigger, then we can slice it up and replace those redirects with the appropriate content. The referring articles will then go to the correct article automatically.  Stepho  talk  22:03, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Oppose: Unless you could provide a detailed information about each platform that is not in common with the other TNGA platforms, we should keep it in a single article. Recall how I split the DNGA from this article and added some new information (that could also be expanded as the line-up grows), which in my opinion made it worthy enough to be a standalone article. I don't see how, for example, TNGA GA-C and TNGA GA-K differs that much apart from size and possibly powertrains. Andra Febrian (talk) 06:26, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

DNGA

Several sources said that the Rocky/Raize is a second DNGA model, the first one is Tanto. (https://www.google.com/search?q=DNGA%E7%AC%AC%EF%BC%92%E5%BC%BE). While i'm aware the Mira e:S press release specifically said that it is based on the DNGA, is it possible that Daihatsu changed its definition of what DNGA is shortly before the current generation Tanto was launched? This website stated that the Mira e:S and Mira Tocot "adopted the second new platform within Daihatsu, which is the origin of the DNGA platform, and are in a standing position before the DNGA platform was improved." Should it be categorized as a DNGA-based car?

Also, i would like to challenge the phrase that said "the Daihatsu New Global Architecture (DNGA) is derived from TNGA". The corresponding citations does not say TNGA anywhere. If there is no evidence that the DNGA is derived from TNGA, i'm proposing that Daihatsu New Global Architecture should have its own article. Andra Febrian (talk) 14:07, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Support I can't see any reason why another brand's architecture should be mentioned on this page, especially if there are no citations to support that claim that the Daihatsu New Global Architecture is derived from the Toyota New Global Architecture. --RickyCourtney (talk) 16:30, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

I believe the idea that DNGA derives from TNGA were brought up by News publications not by Toyota/Daihatsu themselves although the some of the changes being brought by the switch to DNGA were introduced in TNGA as well atleast from what i understood from the translated japanese documents from daihatsu (Improved handling from use of UHSS to lower weight and revised suspension geometry to lower center of gravity, Better torque and fuel efficiency from engine tweaks such as a high tumble intake and a dual mode CVT albeit having a high speed gear instead of the launch gear in the direct shift cvt) https://www.daihatsu.com/jp/car_information/dnga/dnga.pdf TheBitterNoob (talk) 18:21, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Found the DNGA article please disregard my earlier ramblings TheBitterNoob (talk) 19:21, 16 October 2020 (UTC)