Talk:Tracy Price-Thompson
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Written like an advertisement?
editI would challenge the person who nominated this page for speedy deletion to explain in what way it is written as an advertisement.
Also - if articles on books themselves are not eligible for speedy deletion, how the heck is an article about the author of four books eligible?
- Our rules are rather quirky; there are speedy deletion procedures for biographies and bands, but not for books or albums. (I think it may be because we get more spam for the former than for the latter). --Orange Mike | Talk 20:28, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I think the nominator simply did not look at this material carefully. Check out the source of the images in this article; they aren't self-made, they're from a Department of Defense web site. If the United States Air Force considers this woman notable enough to be an authority on Black History Month that ought to be notable enough for Wikipedia, even if the fact she has written four novels isn't enough. --❨Ṩtruthious ℬandersnatch❩ 18:16, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
…so as I've said in a few places, per WP:BIO the books already listed in the article fulfill notability. If you'll just follow the ISBN number links you'll see that her novels are in hundreds of libraries. Chocolate Sangria is the one I looked at (WorldCat is the easiest for this, if you haven't looked up books by ISBN on Wiki before).--❨Ṩtruthious ℬandersnatch❩ 19:21, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Lots of people have written a novel or two, and have their books in a few libraries; that's not enough by itself to constitute notability. It should also be noted that "One World Press" is a printing company for self-publishing authors. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:28, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- According to this (free with registration) she originally self-published her books, but they were subsequently bought by Random House. USA Today describes her as "bestselling" [1] 111 Google News hits points at respectable notability as well. And while it's not technically a reliable source, self-published books generally don't get 87 customer reviews on Amazon. [2] I think notability can be regarded as fairly well established, without worrying too much about the libraries her books are in. ;-) Iain99Balderdash and piffle 21:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- "Customer reviews" on Amazon are often a major source of fakery and spam by what we would call "sockpuppets" and "meatpuppets" here. The other cites you've found, though, are much solider. Thanks! I genuinely want to be fair to her. (I'd suggest, though, that we add the real publisher editions to the self-published editions.) --Orange Mike | Talk 19:48, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- According to this (free with registration) she originally self-published her books, but they were subsequently bought by Random House. USA Today describes her as "bestselling" [1] 111 Google News hits points at respectable notability as well. And while it's not technically a reliable source, self-published books generally don't get 87 customer reviews on Amazon. [2] I think notability can be regarded as fairly well established, without worrying too much about the libraries her books are in. ;-) Iain99Balderdash and piffle 21:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Well at least everyone agrees that I'm not a female African-American ex-military novelist. My pudgy white computer nerd self has some standards to live down to. --❨Ṩtruthious ℬandersnatch❩ 22:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)