Talk:Traianus (magister peditum)

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Goths rebelled and had sacked Adrianople?

Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

This claim is marked as 'citation needed'. I think it is false. I've checked several references (e.g. Heather, 'The Fall of the Roman Empire'; Wolfram, 'History of the Goths') and they make no mention of the rebelling Goths sacking Adrianople. Wolfram says (p120) a Roman unit comprised of Goths rebelled when ordered to move to Asia Minor. The unit (along with Fritigern) besieged Adrianople but unsuccessfully. RMcPhillip (talk) 17:53, 3 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

It is definitely incorrect. A Gothic unit stationed in the city was forced out, and they joined up with the Goths who were marching towards Adrianople. They tried to take the city after the battle, but failed. Oatley2112 (talk) 22:52, 3 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Ad Salices discussion

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I found the text following 'The two generals decided to' confusing.

In Ammianus Marcellinus, XXXI VII,3 does not say that the Romans 'succeeded in pushing the Goths inside the valleys'. It says '...having driven back the enemy beyond the abrupt precipices of the Balkan, they [the Romans] seized upon the rugged defiles in order to hem in the barbarians on ground...'. Based on Wolfram 'History of the Goths' chapter 3, I read this that the Romans drove the Goths north of the Haemus mountains and seized the mountain passes, hemming the Goths into the Danube river valley of Lower Moesia.

In Ammianus Marcellinus, XXXI VII,5 it says that of the three generals Profuturus, Traianus and Richomeres, they all agreed that Richomeres would be the chief commander. The text should say so rather than 'to unite to the units of Richomeres', which doesn't mean anything.

What evidence is there that 'Ad Salices' was near Marcianopolis? Peter Heather in 'The Fall of the Roman Empire' Chapter 4, 'The Battle of Hadrianople' indicates 'Ad Salices' lay in Dobruja.

RMcPhillip (talk) 01:01, 1 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

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