Talk:Transylvanian Society of Dracula

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Transylvanian Society of Dracula is a non-profit organisation established in Romania. It has link with other sisteror-ganisations around the world in countries such as USA, Canada or Italy. Dr. Massimo Introvigne is the president of the Italian chapter of the TSD, Prof. Dr. Elizabeth Miller (recognized internationally for her expertise on Bram Stoker’s 1897 novel Dracula ) is the president of the Canadaian Chapter ([1]) and so on.

Other people involved in TSD have refferences to the Transylvania Society of Dracula in their pages on Wikipedia, such as J. Gordon Melton (the American President of the The TSD) or Mark Benecke.

I do not consider that TSD page should be deleted. TSD is a legitim oragnisation and widely known in it's field. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepbluero (talk • contribs)

Please bring the page inline with WP:MoS, WP:V, WP:RS , WP:N. Remove all unsourced content, clean the tone up so it does not sound like an ad, and present the topic in a neutral manner. Simply because individuals within it *may* be notable does not make the organization notable , and even if it was this article would have serious problems on other grounds. -- Logical Premise ^Ergo? 18:29, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Article easily fits within the Wikipedia category "fandom" [[2]]. A LexisNexis Academic search, utilizing the name of the organization, returns 54 articles centred on the group in major newspapers in North America and western Europe since the mid 1990's. I encountered one claim that stated that it is the largest academically based organization in the world dedicated to the study of "vampire lore". Current references in the article are not demonstrative of the range of citations available in support of the group's notability.Deconstructhis (talk) 18:41, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

As I said in the AfD discussion. Unless you have those sources available and can show them it's hard to asses them. I'm not seeing them. Merely because it fits into fandom does not mean it's given a pass from the basic article requirements. You are new to WP and this is probably a somewhat confusing issue for you -- to you, it's clearly a notable topic and obviously belongs here. And maybe it does! But we do need solid , reliable proof of that. The discussion will run for five days -- will it be possible, in that time span, to incorporate some of these sources you say you found into the article so that it can assert it's notability based on independant coverage ABOUT the TSD? Mind you -- a mention of the TSD in an article is not enough, you need an article ABOUT the TSD. Hell, even one and I'd happily reverse my vote as long as it was in mainstream media. -- Logical Premise ^Ergo? 18:48, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

My vote at the AfD has changed, the NYT is notable enough for me. :) You've still got a lot of work to do on the article, let me know if you need any help. -- Logical Premise ^Ergo? 22:32, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

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Perhaps this material might be better presented in another article? the skomorokh 18:12, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

I didn't know that this page existed, actually. I'll try to cobble together a wikipedia appropriate version of what's going on with the org (I'm a member), and then we can see if the information should remain here or go somewhere else. Strangely enough the TSD is the only org doing serious work on the topic, and the journal does meet normal academic peer review quality standards, so it should be noted on wikipedia... it just doesn't really appear as such from this page. --Jasonnolan (talk) 16:27, 22 November 2008 (UTC)