Talk:Travertine

Latest comment: 6 months ago by Pfrank1970 in topic Rapalano?

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I think it is time to remove the stub tag Gwissi 18:52, 7 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

what's the index of refraction of this material? (visible light) it decides the material reflectivity and thus appearance for use in computer imagery

rubbish!

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for goodness sake! translation~u fool! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 211.31.81.33 (talk) 07:19, 1 April 2007 (UTC).Reply

Demand is a US Dept. of Interior (Bureau of Mines) term for a sophisticated apparent consumption in tons that excludes processing losses and sometimes includes stock changes.

Proposed merger of tecali

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Tecali is apparently the aztec name for travertine (according to the aforementioned article). I was going to propose deleting it because it was tagged as a copy vio but it might be worth incorporating something about the stone's uses in central america into this article. Cosmo0 17:01, 11 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Apparently done - removing tag. Cosmo0 16:52, 17 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Calcareous tuff??

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I'm thinking this is a literal translation of the German Kalktuff, but "calcareous tuff" definitely doesn't mean travertine in English -- "tuff" is reserved for volcanic rock. I don't know what the proper English term is for this type of "rock". Perhaps a kind of tufa? Help? --Pete Tillman (talk) 19:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

The German article says that Tufa is another term used for Travertine. Tuff deals with the volcanic rock and even says not to mix it up with Tufa. Thus the tuff link was off and I changed it to tufa. If anyone objects, plse. change it back with explanation why. There seems to be a widespread mess throughout many languages with the same type of rock having been given various names depending on where it was found. The geologists seem to have been happy to use whatever term was common. 76.97.245.5 (talk) 23:30, 12 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

I agree: "Mausoleum submerged in a travertine pool at Hierapolis hot springs, Turkey" is a wrong caption.
"Mausoleum buried in calcareous deposits at Hierapolis hot springs, Turkey"... and forget "travertine" for ever and ever.--Sannicolasdeugarte (talk) 06:00, 17 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
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I put in a linkk to this page, but now seriously doubt there is such an animal. All the google refs I found are dictionary links. That is usually a very baaaaad sign. I think someone may have gotten carried away with translating pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.97.245.5 (talk) 00:03, 13 December 2008 (UTC) As a professional craftsman tiler i always thought it to be referred to as a metamorphic stone... any help? johntough —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johntough (talkcontribs) 22:12, 12 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

NPOV?

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I find the following text in occurencies section a bit U.S. centric ;) "Travertine waterfalls exist not only in the U.S. in Oklahoma and Texas but most famously in Tivoli, Italy and Guidonia Montecelio, near Rome" Crenshaw (talk) 15:44, 11 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

That's not so much a matter of NPOV, as a matter of systemic bias. You could list the article at: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias/open_tasks#Limited_geographic_scope, but since they have quite a backlog already, it's probably better to try fixing it yourself. HermanHiddema (talk) 12:31, 12 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

Shouldn't we also be saying something about Havasu creek? Aren't all of the falls made from Tavertine, it would only make sense as its a place where the travertine is very dynamic. Warof7 06:55, 3 March 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.245.224.183 (talk)

fossils?

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Travertine is often quite rich in fossils, from mosses to elephants. Pleistocene deposits in Central Europe contain some important lagerstätten (e.g., along the Neckar river). Does anyone have a good source handy to add a section? Otherwise I'll try to stitch something together from my few sources, which only discuss a few localized occurrences. HMallison (talk) 18:09, 30 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Jackson (1998)

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Kent G. Budge, I think that the {{sfn}}s to Jackson (1998) should be to Jackson (1997), but I'm reluctant to change them without access to the source. Could you check and update as appropriate? Thanks, Wham2001 (talk) 08:29, 16 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

You're right. Will be corrected momentarily. --Kent G. Budge (talk) 15:58, 16 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Great – thanks! Wham2001 (talk) 20:10, 16 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Occurrences

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The Travertine#Occurrence section is a bit long and rather weighted towards Europe and North America. (And I've just made that latter worse by adding Soda Dam in New Mexico.) There are hundreds if not thousands of travertine occurrences around the world, and we can list only the most notable examples. "Notable" here means either very important culturally or well-studied scientifically (hence Soda Dam) as established by multiple reliable sources. The most obvious things to leave out are all the Oklahoma/Texas/Colorado occurrences, none of which are more than locally significant and none of which seem to have been very well studied by geologists, but so far as I can tell, these are the only individual karst occurrences covered. (Yeah, there's some mention of the Alps, but it was surprisingly hard to find supporting sources.) If any editor can find well-characterized karst travertine examples elsewhere in the world to replace the poorly-studied ones in the south-central U.S., I think that would be an improvement.

Most well-supported examples given are hot spring travertine. Perhaps it would be helpful to add "See also" to Tufa#Occurence and then not worry about any cold-water examples in this article? --Kent G. Budge (talk) 19:18, 16 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Rapalano?

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In the Occurrence section, this statement appears to be an error: "Deposits of travertine are found in about 100 other locations in Italy, including Rapalino near Pisa." I believe this refers to the town of Rapalano Terme, which is located near Siena and has many travertine quarries of long standing. (See, for instance, https://www.visittuscany.com/en/crafts/pietra-di-rapolano/) There does not appear to be a location in Italy called Rapalino. Pfrank1970 (talk) 19:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)Reply