Talk:Treadwheel

Cleanup

Perhaps we should limit the list to locations with articles? Rklawton 19:04, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

As the originator of this page, maybe it would be better to add the information to the pages for each town, and keep the list, expanding it as further information is discovered. I have added links to the towns on this page. Mjroots 11:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

UK only?

If there is some reason this word/concept applies almost entirely just to the UK, the article should say so. Otherwise, it needs much less detail about the UK, and much more info about the rest of the world -- and more discussion about the evolution of the concept over the centuries.-69.87.204.41 22:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't think treadwheel locations actually adds anything to the article. See also WP:NOT. Rklawton 00:19, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

No, not UK only. Animal power was used over much of the world. There is plenty of info out there, it just needs gathering together and incorporating into the article! Mjroots (talk) 19:16, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Confusing Arithmetic

I have edited the article to clarify that the amount walked is the equivalent of vertical feet. Otherwise, it sounds like they walk at an easy pace for less than an hour. Honestly not sure if what I have done is correct, but boldly edited it on the assumption that it was already incorrect on its face and I could do no worse. Cheers! DeepNorth (talk) 01:24, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

earliest and latest dates

Please add earliest and latest dates treadwheels were in use in prisons in various countries.-96.233.20.34 (talk) 19:28, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Use for power and punishment

   We're told in the lead that

These devices are no longer used for power or punishment...

and i usually try to avoid {{ref-needed}} in the lead. But that reflects many colleagues' preference for keeping reading of the lead as effortless as feasible, and the ease of documenting facts mentioned in the lead indirectly, later on, by referring to (if not necessarily repeating) the fact again in a later section, often where the same source needs mention in discussing consequences of the fact.
   In this case there are IMO three reasonable end-points:

1. Mention something, later in the article, e.g. dates when legislation or explicit policy effected each of those cessations of use in some major regions, with a reference or refs that verify both the bare fact and some dates
2. Find a source we agree is reliable in spite of it not itself providing more detail. (I'm imagining the UK's Inspector of Gaols and Prisons, in her memoirs, saying her personal inspections were thoro enuf that she would have found them, but they'd clearly been destroyed before she complete her first full tour.)
3. Cite reliable evidence that they were used somewhere, and a reliable source who's failed in the effort to find any specific end date.

I don't consider omitting mention of either or both of those uses reasonable, and i do consider keeping my noref tag in the lead secn indefinitely to be reasonable (but not an end-point).
--Jerzy•t 04:01, 14 December 2015 (UTC)