Talk:Trienio Liberal
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No consent to French actions
edit//Although the member states of the holy alliance shared a greater aversion to revolution than the British the organisation rarely met at this time and was described as: "A piece of sublime nonsense," "A ludicrous contract" and "A high sounding nothing," by representatives of Britain, France and Austria respectively, the latter a member of the alliance herself. //The quadruple Alliance did not issue a mandate for French intervention in Spain due to divisions of interests among its members. Instead French forces moved into Spain with the support of Russia, but with no Prussian or Austrian consent. The British expressly opposed the invasion, seeing it as a reversal of the peninsular wars. Indeed France's contradiction of the Alliance in her invasion of Spain has led many historians to declare this point as the effective end of the quadruple alliance.
Not "Civil War"
editI am sorry but I dont agree with the own existence of this article. The events in Spain between 1820-23 are never called "Civil War" in Spanish History. The 1820 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.103.37.88 (talk) 22:45, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
All about the French intervention
editNine-tenths of the article is about the French intervention. Fair enough, but that's what it should be called. The article should be split and the material on the whole period expanded. In Spain, the conflicts of 1820-1823 seem to be called the "liberal triennium". Say in the text that although it's not generally given the name of a civil war, the violence clearly anticipated the Carlist wars.
Status of the Article
editI am firmly of the opinion that this article needs to be heavily revised at the least and perhaps more dramatic action needs to be taken as well. What sort of action needs to be taken I cannot say with any sort of confidence at this moment , but I will look into issue and reccommend a course of action once I have a better grasp of the subject matter. If anyone has any ideas at the moment, please feel free to opine. LeonidasSpartan (talk) 12:17, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Proposed correction
editI believe that JamesWim have reason. I moved part of this article to "The Hundred Thousand Sons of St. Louis" and I recommend deletion of parts of "Trienio Liberal" about French intervention that I moved. I tried to make deletion but my changes were reverted, please view history of "Trienio Liberal" article and check if it's acceptable or not my proposed change dated 12 September. Thanks. 190.173.220.53 (talk) 06:30, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
Why a Spanish name
editWhy was this article given a Spanish name instead of one that could be recognized and remembered by English speaking readers? I have no idea (nor do I care) what "Trienio" means or is supposed to mean. And why should I? Student7 (talk) 01:54, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
- Student7, the word trienio is not Spanish, it is latin, and we have it in our own language as well (Trienium, like Millenium but three years). It is a cultism, I know, English use it hardly ever, but Spanish also do it in that way, just for the name Trienio liberal. I think the name is suitable for the article, but I don't think the same about the content. This articles refers to the invasion of the three million and seven sons of St. Louis. Trienio Liberal is just a politic period in which liberals took control of Spain, not a war... Piockñec (talk) 15:38, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
- The word trienio is in Spanish and it means "a three-year period". The article was named as such because it is the WP:Most common name used in sources for this period of time. The meaning of the phrase should be, of course, explained in the first line of the article. Salut, --IANVS (talk) 04:53, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
french intervention content
editi removed some of the content about the french intervention because it is already contained in Hundred Thousand Sons of Saint Louis, and the article about trienio liberal is mainly about a historical period and its political developments like the liberal goverment, the tensions between liberals and absolutist, the social impact of the liberal reforms, and much less of how it ended. Even so a small inset about the french intervention is included according to the relevance of the internationl implications of the liberal revolution.--Andres rojas22 (talk) 01:53, 2 August 2011 (UTC)