Talk:Trinidad euphonia/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Starsandwhales (talk · contribs) 01:05, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi! I'll be reviewing this article for the next few days/weeks! I might not to reply that promptly but I'll try to answer any questions after a day or two. starsandwhales (talk) 01:05, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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• "It is sometimes considered to be a superspecies with the scrub, yellow-crowned and purple-throated euphonias." --> for more information, could you way 'why' it is considered to be a superspecies with these others?

• Is my explanation sufficient, or does it need more info? MeegsC (talk) 15:31, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

• I also found a 2020 genetic study that further clarifies this relationship. MeegsC (talk) 15:55, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

8This is really good! Very understandable to someone who doesn't know what these mean! :D starsandwhales (talk) 00:09, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

• "It is largely allopatric with latter species, though it does overlap in a narrow zone in eastern Venezuela." --> since this just seems to be a wiktionary link, also including the definition of allopatric in the sentence would make it clearer

• I've reworded this to say "Its range is largely distinct (allopatric) from that of the latter species, overlapping only in a narrow zone in eastern Venezuela." Does that work, or do I need to change it further? MeegsC (talk) 13:34, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

• Personally I'd do a slight rewording to "Its range is largely distinct, or allopatric, from that of the latter species, overlapping only in a narrow zone in eastern Venezuela." but that's not really necessary.

• "Females are virtually indistinguishable from female purple-throated euphonias (which have a slight grayish tinge to the upperparts) and both they and immature birds are probably not separable in the field." --> probably according to whom? "probably" isn't a very encyclopedia-y word if you know what I mean

• I've changed the wording to "not thought to be separable in the field". The reference at the end of the sentence says "probably", but I've made it more "encyclopedia-y". ;) MeegsC (talk) 20:59, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

• Distribution and habitat section is good
• Could you find an image of the eggs?

• Unfortunately, I haven't been able to source a photo or drawing of the eggs. MeegsC (talk) 20:59, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

• AGF for book sources, the other sources look good
• Though it isn't necessary, alt text for images would help with accessibility.

• Done.

• "It has a circular entrance in the side and is lined with finer material." --> what's an example of finer material?

• The sources say only "finer materials". Given that they also says the nest is composed of grass and stems, I assume it is finer bits of those materials. MeegsC (talk) 13:47, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

• Do juveniles have any variation in diet compared to the adults?

• None of the sources indicate anything about juvenile diet. MeegsC (talk) 20:59, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

• What are the time frames when these birds mature?

• I've added the generation length. I can find nothing about when breeding first occurs. I assume it's the summer following the bird's hatching (i.e. when more than 1 year old), but it would be OR to say so. MeegsC (talk) 14:17, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

• Conservation status looks good

• Starsandwhales, I think I've addressed all of your concerns. MeegsC (talk) 15:59, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Everything looks good! I'm going to look at everything again tomorrow, but you should be alright. starsandwhales (talk) 00:09, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Congrats on the new GA! starsandwhales (talk) 20:03, 8 April 2021 (UTC)