Talk:Tropical Storm Cindy (1993)/GA1

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Reviewer: Yellow Evan (talk · contribs) 04:49, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

I plan on reviewing this tomorrow. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:49, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, YE. Btw, be as critical as you like, as I want to achieve A-class quality and might take this to FAC one day. Auree ★ 04:54, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough, you gave valid reasons, that should do it for now. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 01:46, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Lead

• " Despite generally favorable atmospheric conditions for further strengthening, the storm remained disorganized while crossing the northeastern Caribbean Sea. " wikilink atmosphere or wind shear as some people don't really quite know what atmospheric conditions are. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

• Good call. Auree ★ 00:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

• "Cindy attained peak sustained winds of 45 mph (75 km/h) just before it began to weaken from interacting with the high terrain of Hispaniola. It made landfall in the Dominican Republic on August 16 as a marginal tropical depression, and dissipated over the territory the following day." Hispaniola made landfall in the Domincan Republic? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

• No. Auree ★ 00:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

• "The rainfall caused a flood disaster for northern villages and communes, in particular in Le Prêcheur." wtf does communes mean? Do you mean communities? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

• It's a legit word that's a bit different from a regular community, but I could wikilink it? . Auree ★ 00:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Meteorological history

• " A second aircraft mission at 1200 UTC the next day, however, revealed that the circulation had acquired sufficient organization for the system to be classified as a tropical depression, and the National Hurricane Center (NHC) initiated public storm advisories soon thereafter.[1][2]" don't include (NHC) in the wikilink (no need) and what are public storm advisories? the layman won't know. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

• Disagreed with both points. The MOS states that parenthesized acronyms should be included in the appropriate wikilink, and if a reader knows the words "public," "storm," and "advisory" (which anyone with even remote vocabulary should) it's pretty easy to figure out the meaning. Auree ★ 00:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

• "A subsequent reconnaissance mission and satellite images revealed that the depression had developed a central dense overcast while its winds had increased to gale force; the NHC upgraded it to Tropical Storm Cindy around 1800 UTC.[1]" make "gale force" "gale-force", and why does central dense overcast link to eye (cyclone)? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

• Well, "gale-force" would be incorrect here (adjective succeeds the noun), and central dense overcast is a high-jargon term without an article of its own, but which the Eye article does deal with. Auree ★ 00:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Preparations

• "Officials issued flash flood warnings for the island, while about 600 people living in flood-prone areas sought shelter ahead of the storm." wikilink to flash flood warning. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

• Done. Auree ★ 00:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

• Combine it with the impact section due to it's lack of size. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Impact

• "On August 14, Cindy passed over Martinique with rough winds and particularly violent rainfall." delink rain, not a technical term. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

• "Violent rainfall", which refers to a particular rainfall rate/intensity, is a pretty technical term. Auree ★ 00:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

• "In some areas, the thick flood waters reached heights of up to 10 ft (3 m). Damage across the small commune alone was estimated at ₣15 million ($2.7 million).[20] " USD? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

• Fixed. Auree ★ 00:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

• "In spite of the extensive preparations across Puerto Rico, Cindy's center passed well to the south of the island. Impact from the storm was limited to intermittent downpours and 8 ft (2.4 m) waves along the island's southern coast.[29]" according to the earlier in the article, preps were not extensive. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

• Evacuations, public service cancellations and going through the trouble to put a price freeze on stuff is pretty extensive imo. If you still disagree, I can remove the word "extensive". Auree ★ 00:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

• Any update on the mission people's status? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

• Unfortunately not. Auree ★ 00:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

• If not, add the missing people to the infobox. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

• Do we normally do that though? Auree ★ 00:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

• • Yea. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 00:06, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Aftermath

• Again, combine with impact section. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

See Also

• The second wikilink link to the season article, so you might want to fix that. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

References

• Work fields are missing for NNC refs, National Hurricane Center is work, and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is publisher. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}

• No? Auree ★ 00:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

• Wikilink NHC and NOAA on first usage in refs. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

• NOAA I agree with, NHC has been covered in the article. Auree ★ 00:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

• For newspaper refs (such as ref 8 and 9), add agency, page, and location fields. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

• Though preferred, location fields are optional, even over at FAC. I do add agencies when available, but there are no agencies for either of those sources, nor are there page numbers for most newspaper articles (and even if there were, those are not required for newspaper articles). I added an |at= parameter for ref 9, though. Auree ★ 00:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

• Typo in ref 12. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks! Fixed now. Auree ★ 00:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

• Why is there just a year for ref 14, and a date for other refs? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

• Because there is only a publish year for that ref, unfortunately. Auree ★ 00:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

• Ref 18 appears to be in French (not marked). YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

• Whoops, that one slipped my attention. Marked now. Auree ★ 00:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

• Archivedate for NHC refs? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

• Huh? None of the urls are archived.

Summary

On hold for several weeks. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)