Talk:Tropical Storm Claudette (2021)

Article on system that has not formed yet.

Uhhhhhh...no offense, but why is this here? If this system doesn't become Claudette, I literally see no reason to keep it.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 01:03, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

I agree. Sria >:3 SR.1111111 (talk)♥️ 01:18, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Although the chances of Three becoming Claudette are slowly closing due to land interaction (although the system can strengthen a bit before landfall, per NHC), the preparations and further impacts are the most important here. Just wait a little bit until the system makes landfall, impacts will be seen and that’s the time where we justify when this system needs its own article or not. 🌀HurricaneParrot🐦 02:26, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

We have one for Ten in 2017 which caused considerable impacts both as a disturbance and as an extratropical system. Given the sprawling impacts from this disturbance, even if it is not named it is necessary to keep this here. --MarioProtIV (^talk/_contribs) 02:58, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

@MarioProtIV: Didn't know that either. My bad.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 14:09, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

We also have one for Potential Tropical Cyclone Seventeen-E since these are numbered by the NHC. No need for a removal of this article.DachshundLover82 (talk) 04:21, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

@DachshundLover82: Really? I didn't know that. And it formed anyway, so never mind. LOL!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 14:08, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Regardless of whether it develops in the Gulf, it may also become Claudette once it exits off the East Coast and into the Gulf Stream, as shown by some models. Also, I think it’s already very notable and justified due to the impact it’s brought in Mexico, which damage assessments are currently ongoing for. It’s also supposed to make landfall on the first federal holiday Juneteenth in the US, so that brings additional notability.DachshundLover82 (talk) 04:28, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Current storm image not peak intensity

So, I found something out by using a site known as zoom.earth. The one that is currently being used doesn't seem to be at its peak intensity. As I am not a professional, I may or may not know what the hell I am talking about. What do you think?

-Solarrrr... Send a message to Solar? Tappy tap tap! ⏰Time: 05:29, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

We have established that we do not always need to put images of where the storm was at peak intensity but rather ones more representative of the storm itself. People remember Claudette for its Southeastern US impacts, not it being off the coast. See: WP:WPTC/IMG. Also, there already is an image of it at peak. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 18:15, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Welp, time to delete my useless image. -Solarrrr... Send a message to Solar? Tappy tap tap! ⏰Time: 02:54, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Brown ocean effect?

Hey. Isn’t Claudette a possible example of brown ocean effect since it reintensifed into tropical storm while over land? IBlazeCat (talk) 22:19, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

IBlazeCat, maybe, but you have to hunt a reliable source to support your claim Beraniladri19 🌀🌀 12:40, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

I did find a source to support the claim and I will add it in to the article soon.IBlazeCat (talk) 15:51, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Alright, sorry for the late reply, but I’ve added the source to article supporting brown ocean effect. Ill go ahead and end this discussion IBlazeCat (talk) 11:20, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Sources

Mexico

• Alert in Oaxaca, Veracruz
• Veracruz 16 municipalities
• Veracruz 33 municipalities
• Veracruz damage
• Veracruz damage
• Puebla damage
• Puebla damage
• Puebla damage
• Tabasco damage
• Yucatan damage
• Yucatan aftermath
• Quintana Roo impact
• four deaths: 2 Oaxaca 2 Chiapas — unsure if this should be attributed to Claudette or Dolores

Guatemala

• 1 death, 55,000 affected — unsure if this should be attributed to Claudette or Dolores

NWS Post-storm summaries

• Not all offices produced summaries
• Lake Charles, Louisiana (LCH)
• New Orleans, Louisiana (LIX
• Mobile, Alabama (MOB)
• Wilmington, North Carolina (ILM)
• Weather Prediction Center (Wayback archive, pending)

SPC mesoscale discussions

• MD 1006 June 19, 06z
• MD 1008 June 19, 13z
• MD 1011 June 19, 18z
• MD 1015 June 19, 20z
• MD 1021 June 19, 23z
• MD 1027 June 20, 05z
• MD 1029 June 20, 10z
• MD 1030 June 20, 12z
• MD 1031 June 20, 13z
• MD 1033 June 20, 18z

SPC Watches/Warnings

• Tornado Watch 284 June 19, 06:35z
• Tornado Watch 285 June 19, 14:35z
• Tornado Watch 289 June 20, 01:00z

SPC Day 1 outlooks

• June 19, 13z
• June 20, 13z

WPC Mesoscale Precipitation Discussions

• MPD 346 June 18, 16:47z
• MPD 348 June 18, 23:50z
• MPD 350 June 19, 06:04z
• MPD 352 June 19, 11:49z
• MPD 355 June 19, 17:18z
• MPD 358 June 20, 00:19z
• MPD 361 June 20, 05:09z
• MPD 364 June 20, 09:51z
• MPD 365 June 20, 14:55z
• MPD 366 June 20, 19:22z

~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 19:18, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Claudette image (again)

After having several articles vindicated by mindless image edit warring recently, I am going to start a discussion on this before this gets any worse. Are we going to switch to an image of Claudette off the coast solely because it is 2 mb or so deeper, a part of Claudette's lifetime which is relatively insignificant and not relevant to the storm and its impacts on the U.S, or of the image over the United States when most Americans would probably remember it for when it was delivering its impacts and near when it was named? Peak intensity isn't everything and everything was fine for months until someone suddenly decided to revert the image. Thoughts? Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 03:10, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Question

Would the 3 deaths On June 11 count as indirect in the precursor? It is mentioned in the TCR. 108.170.65.170 (talk) 23:11, 2 February 2022 (UTC)