Talk:Tropical cyclones in popular culture

Rename

The current name seems POV, move to List of fictional tropical cyclones could be good. - SpLoT _{(*T* C+u+g+v)} 17:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

This should be renamed to tropical cyclones in popular culture or the like. It current name excludes real ones in popular culture. For example, Paul Quarrington's novel Galveston is an historical novel revolving (very) loosely around the events and aftermath of the Galveston hurricane of 1900. Cyclone Tracy has more examples. Those are both tropical cyclone in popular culture, and yet they would be excluded from here because the Galveston hurricane of 1900 and Cyclone Tracy clearly aren't fictional. Thus, this should be renamed. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 00:10, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, the same was proposed on the talk page for tropical cyclone. Hurricanehink (talk) 02:01, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

New Additions

I've added references for Ghost Beyond Earth & The Moonraker Mutiny. I still have not run down a copy of The Long Twilight to find out if the storm in that novel was ever given a name.

I've also added the details of Summer of Storms which has a fictional category 5 Hurricane called Queenie striking New York city on the 4th of August 1970. The fury of the storm covers up a murder.

The author (Judith Kelman) also describes the Hurricane season Queenie is part of. Prior to Queenie there had been 16 Tropical Storms. 12 of them became Hurricanes, of those 6 were above category 3. A list of Fictional Hurricane Seasons might be worth considering.Graham1973 (talk) 11:07, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Finally ran down a copy The Long Twilight. Will not be adding to the list. The storm is not a true tropical storm, but generated by a device boring into the Earth.Graham1973 (talk) 15:32, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

In case anyone is wondering all tropical storm category information is derived from information contained in the books/short stories I've used. Information is either direct statments of categories by the authors, or based on windspeeds and pressures provided by the authors. For example in Hurricane Claude the storm is described as having windspeeds of around 100 miles an hour and a central pressure of 28.6 inHG, hence it must be a Category 2 storm.Graham1973 (talk) 13:25, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

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• I've added a rationale. bd2412 T 04:33, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Cleaning up the citations

I'm currently engaged in an effort to locate citations for all items on the list. Help is wanted in running down Film/TV/Game citations. Music citations may be trickier. Most attempts to confirm lyrics lead to sites selling ringtones. I managed to find the pages used for reference purposes saved at the Internet archive. Links to the archive pages have now been used. Some book references need tidying up.Graham1973 (talk) 21:24, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

These are the currently outstanding items that I have not (so far) been able to find online confirmation for:

• The Golden Girls/Empty Nest/Nurses triple cross, I managed to find an episode guide that mentioned the crossover plot involved a hurricane, but it does not mention the hurricane by name. Help running down confirmation of this is now critical, online searches only bring up wikipeida and mirror sites.

Graham1973 (talk) 04:20, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the great work you've done on sourcing and expanding this article. Cheers! bd2412 T 11:35, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment, I've managed to run down a few more, with luck the page should be ready for re-assessment soon.Graham1973 (talk) 12:52, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

This Entertainment Weekly article discusses the NBC three-sitcom crossover; however, it says that "Hurricane Gil and Hurricane Heidi will hit Florida", when I only remember there being one hurricane, Gil. bd2412 T 23:34, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the link as a reference. I've converted it to web citation format and I can see someone else fixed the name, at least now I know why I was only getting wikipedia mirrors when I was searching earlier. Episode transcripts, if they exist online might be the only way to resolve the "...Hurricane Heidi..." thing. Something else to look up is just which episode of 'The Fresh Prince of Bel-Aire' the Hurricane Bobby quote comes from. IMDB didn't have that information. Rather surprised the series didn't cop some flak for that gag as it's in very poor taste.Graham1973 (talk) 09:22, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Interesting Quotes Related to Naming

Adding the books to the list bought up a few interesting quotes relating to tropical cyclone naming where authors reveal unusual ideas about the process. As this might make for an interesting addition to the page, I the best examples below for discussion, as this may fall under the catagory of Own Research.

Nevertheless when Port Louis received the message it would prove to be the most precise report of the estimated position and movement of cyclone Alpha - it was the first of the season - so far received from any ship. Indeed, it was the first signal unequivocally to name the disturbance a cyclone.

Anthony Trew, The Moonraker Mutiny (Fontana, 1972) p.39 (Novel is set in the late 50s/early 60s, certainly before global satellite coverage.)

...There's a late-season hurricane moving in over the Turks & Caicos Islands. The meteorological guys christened her Little Eva because she's a small blow with a diameter no more than 60 miles wide.

Clive Cussler, Cyclops (Sphere, 1987) p.131

Typhoons are hurricanes - the name is different in the Pacific from the Carribean. But the effects are the same. ... Each one has a name for ease of reference. In the Caribbean, hurricanes are traditionally given feminine names. In the Pacifc, the tradition is for mens names, running in strict alphabetical order. The last one, two months previously, was Typhoon Charlie. This new storm was therefore a 'D'. Typhoon Donald, as a wit in the Hong Kong typhoon centre had already christened it.

John Watson, The Iron Man (Warner Books, 1998) p.179-180

Graham1973 (talk) 08:51, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

The Full Tropical Storm Barney Quote

This description of the incredibly rapid intensification of an artificially enhanced tropical storm is the source of the short quote in the article. I am including the full quote here, for anyone who wishes to make use of it:

Microphone in hand, Richard glanced over his shoulder. His gut clenched as he watched bloated menacing clouds exploding over the open ocean with the unholy force of a mid-air detonation. Furious plumes burst in all directions and the sea's dark choppy swells erupted into a frenzied expanse of boiling, churning whitecaps thundering a crazed ambush on the suddenly puny cliffs and the beach at their base, fifty feet below.

Bill Evans & Mariana Jameson, Catagory 7: The Biggest Storm In History (Tor, 2007), p.5

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The Hurricane (Nordhoff & Hall)

Not sure if this book should go under "Works predominantly focused on the occurrence of a fictional tropical cyclone" or "Works in which a fictional tropical cyclone is a key event". 216.255.165.198 (talk) 02:57, 4 September 2019 (UTC)