Talk:Truce of Constantinople (1533)

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Nicolae Jorga: Gescchiste des Osmanichen

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I've fixed the ISBN, but Google Books associates this ISBN with volume III, not volume II. The WorldCat page for this publication, which you can access through the ISBN's "magic link", nicely contains all ISBNs for the volumes. Knife-in-the-drawer (talk) 04:46, 2 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Latest comment: 2 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

I have just renamed the Page as "Truce of Constantinople (1533)", as the sources I've seen and added to this article define it as such, while the few sources previously used do not show (or were not used to elaborate on) the claim of it being a proper treaty. I am willing to hear any complaint. Deamonpen (talk) 14:34, 9 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

It seems some of the "language matters" associated with this were/are used by one side (Turkish Wikipedia users, please inform us on this) to claim superiority over another. Imho, even if there are other proper sources (Turkish and others) claiming that this was a full-blown, proper treaty with the Habsburg side renouncing their imperial dignity and accepting John Zápolya as sole King of Hungary etc, this should be considered a case of controversal claims until one side provides definitive evidences, unquestioned by the majority of scholars (for example, the text of the treaty, signed and showing the terms as declared by the previous version of this page).

If the above requirement is not fulfilled, imho, Suleyman's claim of superiority over the Habsburgs would be about as valid as both of these dynasties' claims for their ruler being "ruler of the whole world". Deamonpen (talk) 14:56, 9 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

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