Talk:Tu Manera/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Kingsif (talk · contribs) 22:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Style

• Consistent formatting with other song articles. Passes 1b "coherent formatting, good organization of the article into sections"
• Lead is perhaps a bit long, because the article itself is quite short. Question 1b "the lead section is a good summary and introduction to the topic" and "complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections"

 Done I slightly trimmed the lead.

• Prose:
  • The sentence "A Spanish-language dance, Latin and Caribbean-influenced pop song, "Tu Manera" lyrically has Inna falling for someone." may be better understood if it were two sentences or rearranged - grammatically correct, but a formulation that some may find hard. Suggestion: "Tu Manera" is a Spanish-language dance, Latin, and Caribbean-influenced pop song that represents Inna falling for someone through its lyrics. Question 1a "clear prose"

 Done

• • Beginning a sentence "A reviewer described the track..." could be given more clarity or rewritten; either giving the name of the reviewer or speaking generally (i.e. "The track has been described..."). Question 1a "clear and concise"
    • Honestly, since this is nicely expanded on in Production, and isn't essential to the lead, the sentence could be removed from the lead.

 Done

• • The phrase "while production was handled by David Ciente" is repeated in the lead and Production; it only needs to appear in the latter.

I disagree. I'm using this type of writing in all my music articles, and I think it doesn't flaw the article. Plus writing and producing credits are so imporant, thus worth mentioning twice.

Perhaps rephrase then - articles seem less well-written to readers if they remember a distinct phrasing being repeated. You could change one instance to "while David Ciente produced it", wikilinking "produced" to the appropriate page on music production if you want. But I leave this as an open suggestion, not a request. Kingsif (talk) 12:48, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

• • Good use of wikilinks for specific music production terminology. Passes 1b "appropriate use of wikilinks"
  • The phrase "It is a Spanish language dance, Latin and Caribbean-influenced pop song" is repeated in lead and Production; it is good information to be included in both, one instance should be rephrased.

Only the sentence's first part is similar to the one in the lead, and I don't quite know how to rewrite it. Maybe you know?

How about something like (for the Production section) "It is a Spanish language pop song with "very sticky, funny and cheerful" lyrics about falling for someone that was influenced by dance, Latin and Caribbean music"? Another open suggestion. Kingsif (talk) 12:48, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

• • The phrase "An accompanying music video for the song was uploaded onto Inna's official YouTube channel on 7 March 2019." is repeated. Could easily be rephrased in the lead (e.g."The music video was released on 7 March 2019").

 Done

• • A question about a quote: "paired with sunglasses whilst her hair combed back away from her face" is grammatically incorrect - is it a misquote (whilst->with or "whilst her hair combed"->"whilst her hair is combed"?) or is the quote just incorrect (at which point a sic should be used)?

This is the way it is written in the source, but can you point out the flaw, because I fail to see it :(

Just grammatically incorrect - to be correct, either "whilst" should be 'with', or an 'is' needs to be added to qualify it. Adding "sic" says that you've quoted it from the source, not made mistakes. Alternatively, you can add missing words in square brackets ([...]) - this is what I've added, but you can change to 'sic' after the quote in parenthesis if you like. Kingsif (talk) 12:48, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Verifiability

• Well sourced, appear to be good sources, no original research Passes criteria 2

Coverage

• Responses are mixed into the coverage of the other sections, in a way that works well for the style.
• Everything expected from an article on a song is covered, perhaps with the exception of technical aspects like key - if this is not reported in sources, however, lack of inclusion can be excused (and it doesn't seem to be available) Passes 3a "it addresses the main aspects of the topic"

Further sources on composition & co. are indeed unavailable.

• Does not go off-topic Passes 3b "it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail"

Neutrality

• No apparent bias, Passes 4

Stability

• Stable for a long time; only one minor conflict a few months ago over apparent misunderstood reversion to redirect. Passes 5

Illustration

• Short article, expect 1-2 images; infobox has suitable cover art and info. Passes 6

Copyright

• Tentative. The report is very clean; I'm good faith accepting on Romanian sources given the lack of copyvio in English ones. There's just the one issue with the description of the music video: "dancing on the street, riding a bike and sitting on a red couch in a pickup truck" is not in quotation marks in the article despite being a direct quote — this is so long it should be rephrased or given "...". Provided this simple issue is resolved, an advance pass - question criteria 7.

 Done

Comments

•  On hold It's very close, would like responses to some of the small issues picked up on before promotion.

Kingsif (talk) 22:36, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

@Kingsif: Hi and thank you very much for your review. I've responded to your comments... Best regards; Cartoon network freak (talk) 12:30, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

@Cartoon network freak: Of course - your timely response to fix the points is also nice!

Pass. Some small style issues that don't affect quality enough to hold back. Kingsif (talk) 12:48, 22 July 2019 (UTC)