Talk:Tunisian–Algerian War (1694)

Latest comment: 4 months ago by TheHistorian100 in topic September 2023

September 2023

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M. Bitton, stop reverting edits that contain valid sources. Try actually READING the sources that we have provided, instead of reverting them without a valid explanation. Yousefsw07 (talk) 01:25, 23 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

A valid explanation was provided, so you assertion is baseless.
we have provided How many of you are there? M.Bitton (talk) 11:12, 23 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
The explanation you provided just tells me you didn’t even look through the sources. They weren’t sourced correctly but u could still access the sources. Please go and look through the sources I had provided, you will see that Tripolitania did in fact intervene in the war. By “we” I was talking about the other people who have previously mentioned tripolitanias involvement (some with sources) in the war but have been reverted by you aswell as some other users. Yousefsw07 (talk) 22:04, 23 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Belated comments:
  • Yousefsw07, in the future, please use citation templates when adding sources and include full bibliographical details in them, including the page numbers where the source supports your edit. You should also consider including a relevant quote from the source, especially for controversial edits or for sources that are not fully accessible to everyone. If you only provide bare URLs with no details, it's unreasonable to expect other editors to find the information for you. We already know from your edits, your comments, and from this previous discussion that you have a specific POV, so you should expect extra scrutiny.
  • That said, I have checked one of the sources provided in this edit, "Tunisia Since the Arab Conquest" (Abadi 2013), and it does appear to support a Tripolitanian involvement, on p. 207. Here is the passage for convenience:

Ibn Shukr, however, persisted in his plan and brought the proposal to Sh’abān Khuja Dey, the new ruler of Algiers, who promised the dey financial rewards and warned him about the aggressive intentions of the Bey of Tunis towards Constantine and Tripolitania. Persuaded by what Ibn Shukr said, the Algerian dey not only agreed but also convinced the pasha of Tripoli to send a squadron to Bône in order to join the alliance against the Muradite bey of Tunis (1694). In the summer of 1694, the allied army invaded the Regency and defeated the forces of Muhammad Bey, which were besieged in Tunis. The three-month siege ended with the fall of the capital and the flight of Muhammad Bey to the Sahara in November of that year. (...)

Before editing the article again, please establish a consensus on how to proceed. (As M.Bitton mentioned, it's not covered in the article.) R Prazeres (talk) 03:35, 2 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
It seems like the source used does mention Tripolitania's involvement. It mentions that the Algerian dey convinced the pasha of Tripoli to assist him with the invasion of Tunis. It even refers to them as the "allied army". I may be mistaken and please correct me if I am. TheHistorian100 (talk) 18:37, 3 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Does it not claim that Tripolitania was involved? TheHistorian100 (talk) 04:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)Reply