Talk:Turin–Lyon high-speed railway

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Article rename

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As in it. and fr. wikipedias, the article name must be modified because this line is not officially classed as "high speed" (max speed only 220 km/h) by European Union (see [1]). French and Italian Wiki articles use different terms that we can translate with "railway connection", "railway link" or "railway project". IMHO the better name is "Turin–Lyon railway project", also because works are far to be effective (2014? 2015?). That about this rename? --Alpha dot (talk) 13:16, 21 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

So, when will this title change?

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In the meantime the France and Italian governments confirmed the project and started assigning tenders last year. Both the European Union and the UIC agree that new lines must have a maximum speed of at least 250km/h to be called high-speed. [1] [2] LoGaIta99 (talk) 10:40, 2 September 2021 (UTC)Reply


See WP:COMMONNAME --Ita140188 (talk) 03:43, 3 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Can I remove the "high-speed" from the first line of the page, then? Or does it need to be the same of the title? LoGaIta99 (talk) 14:44, 3 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ "EUR-Lex - 31996L0048 - EN". Official Journal L 235 , 17/09/1996 P. 0006 - 0024;. Retrieved 2021-09-02.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: extra punctuation (link)
  2. ^ railways, UIC-International union of (2021-09-02). "Intercity and High-Speed". UIC - International union of railways. Retrieved 2021-09-02.

"No Tav movement" section

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In my opinion this section's weight is too unbalanced toward only one side, with the text statements supported only by three sources, of which two are from the same "author", which is one of the side involved in the matter. Considering that is a tricky argument, to avoid partisanship problems here, someone has suggestion on how to modify and improve this part of the article, maybe with adding more third-party source. - ElSaxo (talk) 22:15, 28 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Gradients

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There is something wrong throughout the article with the quoted gradients. Basically '30%' (30/100) quoted for gradients is unfeasibly steep and unrealistic. If this is part of some special way of expressing railway gradients that differs from the normal way of expressing gradients, it must be identified as such on the first occurence. 31.49.212.107 (talk) 13:03, 12 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

The symbol used is ‰, which is 1/1000, so it's actually a 3% gradient. --Ita140188 (talk) 15:18, 12 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Protests weighted Italy - possible documentation

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Not sure where this fits in, not my issue not going to try. But I'd direct others to a well thought out little documentary by Kim Constantino. In it he states that in his 3 week walk from Turin to Lyon in 2013 (2014?), he noted 257 "No TAV" signs in Italy and only 7 signs in France, which seems to support the statement / comment that No TAV is more based in Italy. Images of many of the signs are in his documentary, as is a map of every sign location (!).

Seven minute documentary, on Vimeo:

Design Magazine

Future Landscapes -- Effects of a non-existing rallway 1990 - 2014

Kim Constantino

https://vimeo.com/103414666 and http://vimeo.com/105479294

(same film, different links)

GeeBee60 (talk) 22:40, 17 September 2017 (UTC)Reply