Talk:Turkmen alphabet

UTA

Added the Uniform Turkic Alphabet, used between 1927 and 1940. Information from the Turkmen and Russian Wikipedias. Not sure if I'm about to post the short-lived alphabets from the early 90s. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.155.2.87 (talk) 21:26, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Latin script

Several questions about the Turkmen Latin script:

1. Does anyone know how well the introduction of Turkmen Latin script goes on there? Is it taught in schools, or is there still a mix of Cyrillic and Latin? Are there any adult people who use it?
2. In what language are newspapers printed? Street signs? Government documents and passports?
3. Who designed it? It seems very weird in comparison to other Turkic Latin scripts. Where Turkish and Azeri use dotless i, Turkmen uses y, like Polish, and where Turkish uses y it uses y-acute. If the purpose of Latinization was to bring the Turkmen culture closer to Turkish, then it missed the point entirely. It actually looks so stupid, that it makes me think that the Great Serdar Saparmurad Turkmenbashi designed it himself.
4. What does the exiled Turkmen opposition think about the script? I see that some opposition websites use Cyrillic and some use Turkmenbashi's weird Latin, even though they hate Turkmenbashi. Are there any proposals to make yet another reform that will make Turkmen look like Turkish and Azeri?--Amir E. Aharoni 12:35, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

1-2. At least at banknotes of Turkmen manats and official web-sites.

3. Seems produced by The Great Serdar Saparmyrat Turkmenbashy. It is not so weird. Proposed system is internally logical. Set of characters conform with Central Europe Codepage. When was introduced this alphabet (1992) Turkic codepage not exists. Probably correlation with Turkish or Modern Uniform Turkic Alphabet is better but and this alphabet is robust.

4. At 2008 is not. --AlefZet (talk) 15:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Side link

The link to the Turkmen language Wikipedia in the "in other languages" section on the side is written in the Arabic and Cyrillic alphabets. Why? The actual version is in the Latin alphabet if you click. Rmpfu89 20:32, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

This are some Turkmen language ethnic groups in Afghanistan, Iran, Syria and Iraq used to Arabic script.--AlefZet (talk) 15:17, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

z as [ð]

The article text states that the letter <z> is pronounced as [ð], but the table shows it as [z]. Which is correct? Vilĉjo 15:16, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

No. S (no Z) is [ð] in dialects, but standard Ashgabat pronunciation is [s]--AlefZet (talk) 15:14, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

ñ & ÿ / ň & ý

I left the following question in Talk:Turkmen language but nobody has answered yet. I leave the same questions here. In a dictionary about Turkic languages titled "Dictionary of the Turkic Languages", by Kurtuluş Öztopçu et al, ISBN 0-415-16047-2 , edited by Routledge, I have found the spellings "ñ" and "ÿ" instead "ň" and "ý". Are "ñ" and "ÿ" incorrect or obsolete spellings? Or are "ň" and "ý" the "easier computer options"? The book was first published in 1996 and reprinted in 1999 but the copy I have is from 2006 (I took it from Ilford Public Library and it says it was transferred to digital printing in 2006) which means it should/could have been corrected if the spelling in Turkmen were wrong or had become out of date. According to the book "Azerbaijani, Turkmen and Uzbek are given in both their official Cyrillic and Latin scripts" (page x) but not a single "ý" or "ň" can be seen in the many Turkmen entries of the book. In page ix it can be read "Responsibility for the content and editing of the individual languages was undertaken as follows: [...] Turkmen: Youssef Azemoun, Turkmen expert.". I would appreciate if anybody could tell me how official are the spellings ñ & ÿ versus ň & ý. Thanks --Piolinfax (talk) 18:13, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

ñ & ÿ are wrong. --AlefZet (talk) 12:56, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, AlefZet. I was starting to assume that too. At least in the internet they seem to be non-existent. I just find strange that the editors in Routledge have not fixed the error yet (or, at least, earlier) Piolinfax (talk) 14:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Probably ISO 8859-1 doesn't support these letters, so approximations are used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PiotrGrochowski000 (talk • contribs) 10:51, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Braille

If anyone can confirm Turkmen Braille, please let us know on that talk page. — kwami (talk) 03:56, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Currency signs claim

The claim that there was a proposal to use currency symbols in the Turkmen alphabet (¢, £, $ and ¥) definitely needs more sources for verification, otherwise readers are going to think that it was a hoax or something. --Minoa (talk) 09:43, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

1993 letters

greetings. the reason for the unusual letters of the 1993-1999 version of the alphabet seems to be optimization(?) with computers, since the unusual characters are all in the first 256 code points of unicode (except for ſ, long s, which isn't in that range, why is it here). i don't know how to include this fact in the article

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--2001:56A:72EB:C200:E874:33CD:F6EA:5C5E (talk) 00:52, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Latin Alphabet

Hey all So, I added the section on Standardized Turkmen Arabic Alphabet, with citation provided. But now, my section on Arabic Alphabet is quite thorough. And let's be honest, the article looks a bit weird to have so much on Turkmen Arabic Script in Iran, but not much at all on rules and conventions for writing in Latin, considering that Latin is notably more dominant for Turkmen. I can add them, as they're also covered in the Persian language source I provided. But would appreciate help from anyone else here. To be honest some of the conventions I added, aren't Arabic specific, but are Turkmen specific. If the article is reorganized, it can cover both systems simultaneously. BasilLeaf (talk) 09:04, 6 October 2021 (UTC)