Talk:Twin Towers Correctional Facility

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Yes, they are POV. But is it a correct POV? -Willmcw 10:09, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Current State of this Page

Please don't reply and have debates (ie "Response to Above") right in the middle of the article, that's totally unacceptable and the reason we have talk pages here. This page is a shame, I'll try and clean it up tonight.

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• • Medications cannot be forced on those housed within the Towers. Inmates within the Towers are technically outpatients. There is, however, a 50 bed designated inpatient psych facility that is part of the medical complex attached to the Twin Towers. In this facility, psychotropic medications can be given against the patient's will after a judicial hearing.

Inmates are not "technically outpatients" ... even by just words, "inmate" means someone confined. I wonder why you would say they are "technically outpatients." Where did you get that idea from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.112.79.86 (talk) 00:24, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

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• • Most of the ACLU complaints received infer that inmates in the Towers are receiving too few psychotropic medications. The most common medications demanded by inmates are Wellbutrin and Seroquel. Wellbutrin is popular because it can produce a stimulant-like high after being crushed and snorted. Seroquel is popular because of its sedating qualities. Both of these meds are highly sought after and are part of the jail barter system.

(I also would like to note that the ACLU reports can only imply, and you alone can infer. - 23 October 2005Reason.)

Use of Pschiatric Meds to control prisoners at Jail

I think the below is non-NPOV and needs to be discussed here, and not in the article:

"Though most inmates are held for low-level crimes against LA County ordinances, the use of psychiatric drugs to allegedly control prisoners is considered a technology of political control in a report summarizing technologies of political control prepared by the Omega Foundation for the European Parliament."

First, hardly any inmates at LASD are held for low-level crimes against LA County Ordinances. Very few LACC are enforced. 2nd - are you talking about people that are arrested for 5150 W&I? Most people that are arrested are for violations of the California Penal Code, Vehicle Code or Health and Safety Code. Finally, what does some European Parliament determination have to do with a U.S. facility? You could have just as easily said that "U.S. law permits the use of psychiatric medications in the treatment of prisoners." Leaving your observation to a sentence, that LASD's use of psyche meds to control prisoners is sufficient. Rhallanger 18:03, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't think any of what you say is in error, but if human rights groups object to the use of psychiatric drugs and drugs are indeed used and human rights groups do object where is the non-POV? The paragraph is unemotionally accurate. I suggest removing the tag. User:wjbean

In response to the above post, "Very few LACC are enforced." That is absolutely NOT true, and I can attest to this. In 2002 I had a traffic ticket (Unsafe Lane Change/Motorcycle) that went to warrant. In 2003 I had a Metro violation (forgot to buy my subway ticket) that went to warrant. Both times I spent five days just waiting for a seat in front of a judge, the first time at Twin Towers, the second at Men's Central. That being said, you are correct...they don't use psychoactive drugs 'wholesale' at that facility so this article DOES need revision. Then again, this is just my own anecdotal evidence. JustinStroud 15:10, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Looking at this, I'd suggest removal not because it's non-NPOV but because it's beyond the scope of the article. It belongs somewhere else. Mdoc7 19:56, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Photo(s) requested

This article is mentioned at Wikipedia:WikiProject Southern California/Requested photos.

"had to delete a very nice copyrighted image from the article that was taken from the LA Sheriff's Dept. website." ^BlankVerse 07:27, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Synonym versus "also referred to"

Someone correctly made a small change to my notation that the Twin Towers Correctional Facility is often referred to the Twin Towers Jail by the media. They removed the word "synonym" and also removed the brackets. This was the correct thing to do. It is more accurate to state that it is "also referred to" then to call it a synonym. Thanks for updating my verbage. Michaelh2001 19:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Paris Hilton Mention?

She's there. Should it be mentioned?

I think this would more or less fall under a possible "Famous people booked at Twin Towers" section. --Raderick 11:14, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

So they have security cameras...

in the third paragraph it makes a point of mentioning the fact that there is a control room and cameras in this prison... is that notable? do other prisons lack said cameras? Janemansfield74 05:29, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Nuetrality?

what about this article at the moment warrants the nuetrality tag? it doesnt seem incendiary at all. Janemansfield74 05:22, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I concur. It appears problems have been addressed. I have removed the tag. RJFJR 02:27, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Prisons

If anyone's interested, I've proposed a new wikiproject for the creation and improvement of articles regarding specific prisons, internment camps, and detention centers here. --Cdogsimmons (talk) 02:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Windows danger

Mention if the vertical slit windows present a fire hazard due to lack of rescue possibility. Jidanni (talk) 11:04, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Remove unsourced nickname.

Ok since when was this facility officially nicknamed the "9/11 Correctional Facility". Seems like someone's just making a very insulting joke. Thomasthedarkenguine (talk) 21:51, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

 Done Elli (talk | contribs) 22:03, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

FINALLY someone sees my request, GOD IS REAL! Thomasthedarkenguine (talk) 01:35, 28 September 2023 (UTC)