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Did Hagupit ever lose super typhoon status?
editThis no longer thinks Hagupit lost super typhoon status at all, listing 130 knots since the loss of Category 5 status.--Jasper Deng (talk) 16:19, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Jasper Deng: Well, it is still as super typhoon strength right now but it is a cat4 now. I've heard that Hagupit weakened to a typhoon, but the JTWC and JMA upgraded it again to a super typhoon strength. Just remember, according to JTWC if a typhoon reaches 130 knots of 1-minute sustained winds, it is already a super typhoon. 140 knots is already cat5 storm. Typhoon2013 (talk) 21:56, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Typhoon2013: Well, now according to this it has lost super typhoon status for good, but my point was that although it is commonly reported as a re-strengthening, and indeed JMA agrees that it's a restrengthening, that track file had been amended to appear as if it had never weakened below super typhoon status. Before it had said that it weakened to 125 knots from 145, but now it says it weakened from 145 to 130, still not Category 5 but now no longer any weakening to sub-super-typhoon until about an hour ago.--Jasper Deng (talk) 00:55, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Jasper Deng: The final strength was 120-knot at 00Z, clearly not a super typhoon. -- Meow 03:07, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Meow: Yes, but that's not my point. Basically, JTWC didn't actually see any restrengthening to super typhoon status as claimed by many news sources. Hagupit basically held it continuously from 1800Z on December 3rd to 1800Z December 5th; the trackfile no longer lists weakening below super typhoon status for any dates in between. Thus there was never a "restrengthening". However it still is fair to say that JMA saw restrengthening even if JTWC didn't.--Jasper Deng (talk) 04:07, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Jasper Deng: Unlike other agencies, JTWC often changes the track data operationally. It did downgrade Hagupit to a typhoon yesterday and then it regretted. You will notice this from JTWC’s track map if you track more systems. -- Meow 08:18, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Meow: Yes, but that's not my point. Basically, JTWC didn't actually see any restrengthening to super typhoon status as claimed by many news sources. Hagupit basically held it continuously from 1800Z on December 3rd to 1800Z December 5th; the trackfile no longer lists weakening below super typhoon status for any dates in between. Thus there was never a "restrengthening". However it still is fair to say that JMA saw restrengthening even if JTWC didn't.--Jasper Deng (talk) 04:07, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Post-Philippines
editDoes anyone have any link showing its projected path other than http://www.jma.go.jp/en/typh/ (which is blocked for Chinese visitors)? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:15, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
- Try this. -- Meow 14:52, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:32, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
Animation sequence from the Hong Kong Observatory
editAnimation sequence from the Hong Kong Observatory
I think it is an appropriate temporary external link. I usually add it to current typhoons in the area. Other sites that have animations are blocked in China, a region affected by these typhoons. Thoughts? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:30, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
- Is the Satellite Services Division also blocked by China? The HKO one is not at good quality so I removed. -- Meow 01:52, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
- Meow: This doesn't connect, so I do not know what that is. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/ has lots of links. Is there an animation link there you could point out? Still, the external links section has no good animation for all of China to see. This ought to be fixed. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:16, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
- I don’t think people in China would want to read or can read this article. -- Meow 12:31, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
- Meow: Are you serious? China is a huge country. Don't you know that? A large portion now speaks English. They can and want to read this article. The external link is useful to visitors. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:44, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
- If you think that is really important, add it to the bottom. -- Meow 12:52, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
- Done. I added it to the top, alphabetically sorted. If there is another animation in that external links list, then feel free to move the HKO link to the bottom. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:51, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
- If you think that is really important, add it to the bottom. -- Meow 12:52, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
- Meow: Are you serious? China is a huge country. Don't you know that? A large portion now speaks English. They can and want to read this article. The external link is useful to visitors. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:44, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
- I don’t think people in China would want to read or can read this article. -- Meow 12:31, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
- Meow: This doesn't connect, so I do not know what that is. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/ has lots of links. Is there an animation link there you could point out? Still, the external links section has no good animation for all of China to see. This ought to be fixed. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:16, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
Typhoon Hagupit/Ruby Relief Fund
editSomeone kindly put this out in the article. Thank you whoever you are. Here is a relief fund that's been set up to help out the people victimized by the storm. ĊHere is a relief fund that's been set up to help out the people victimized by the storm. http://www.gofundme.com/dashboard-hue5fw
PAGASA References
editPlease, replace the PAGASA facebook's references for the official references archived in Webcite and Web Archive:
- ...Typhoon Hagupit made landfall over Dolores, Eastern Samar, when the 10-minute maximum sustained winds were at 175 km/h (110 mph). 7 [29]...
- A half of day later, the system made the second landfall over Cataingan, Masbate and turned west-northwestward. 30...
- ...right before this fragmented system made its third landfall over Torrijos, Marinduque.32[33]...
- ...the fourth landfall over San Juan, Batangas at 17:45 PST (09:45 UTC), the JMA downgraded Hagupit to a tropical storm at noon.34[8]...
- ...the NDRRMC reported that schools were suspended in the areas: Samar, Biliran and Tacloban during 4–5 December.44...
- ...Rough seas and gale force winds were warned over the seaboards over the eastern part of the country.45...
- ...and CARAGA has no classes during 8–9 December.52
So that is!
- PD: Also NDRRMC issues are included here. -- Byralaal - (talk!) 05:14, 6 January 2015 (UTC)