Talk:Typhoon Nina (1987)

Todo

At present this is little more than a stub. It needs lots more info. Jdorje 21:53, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/RWB.NSF/db900SID/OCHA-64BMV8?OpenDocument I found some impact info the question is how to add more info without messing up the structure of the article? Storm05 16:50, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Simply add the info in the subsections (Philippine info in the Philippine section, etc.) Hurricanehink 17:18, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Better or needs more Storm05 17:36, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

For B-class I'd say it should have a little more. — jdorje (talk) 17:57, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I added more info and picture. Storm05 14:01, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

You need to fix wording all around. The intro is very bland and should be expanded. The storm history should be 2 paragraphs. Words like giant and extremely should be replaced with more dynamic and correct words. Remove abouts in storm history (in Philippines section) and replace with exact amounts. Hurricanehink 16:11, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

It's not only the wording. This article has a grand total of one source, and must be verified properly, preferably using inline {{cite web}} citations. Furthermore, there is no information on Preparation and Aftermath, and expansion is essential. Major improvements definitely required! - SpLoT _{(*T* C+u+g+v)} 16:17, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Hurricanehink (talk · contribs) 03:59, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• There is no need for the disambiguation at the top. No one could get TS Nina confused with this storm. However, it would be a useful link in the see also section, more so than List of tropical cyclones.
  • Moved. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• Is there a reason you still have List of tropical cyclones? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• Axed. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• " was the most intense typhoon to strike the Philippines since Typhoon Irma in 1984." - that's only three years. Is there nothing more fancy? Like Xth deadliest Philippine storm?
  • I think the Xth deadliest Philippine storm is too trivial. But Irma was six years, not three, so I fixed that. ~~ 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
• "and on November 19, was first classified as a tropical cyclone" - why does infobox say the 16th?
  • Changed. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
• Why did you wait so long to link typhoon?
  • Moved. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
• "before attaining its peak intensity of 170 km/h (105 mph)" - I was gonna ask if this was in 1-min or 10-min, but I noticed, this doesn't match either value in the infobox. So.......
  • Fixed, and sticking to JMA since it's official. 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• Now it says "before attaining its peak 10 minuet intensity of 175 km/h (110 mph)", which is still inconsistent with the infobox. And JMA wasn't official then, it didn't become an RSMC until 1989. So if you want to say 10-minute winds there, you should say who said that? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• Listen, I like to avoid that JMA/JTWC crap in leads because IMO it is confusing. Look at all my other 80s WPAC articles. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• Why did you link Truk Atoll twice? (its name is Chuuk Lagoon). And why is there a link to a river in England?
  • Fixed both. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}

• Is Weno the same place as Meon? Also, you have a link for [[Chuuk Lagoon|Chuuk Lagoon]] Am I crazy or is that the same thing? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• Apparently it's the capital of Chuuk Lagoon, and I take it Meon is/was per the old version of the article. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• "After crossing the Philippines, Nina brought extensive damage to the northern portion of the island group." - so it caused damage *after* it crossed the islands? Not during?
  • Better? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
• "The town of Matnog sustained the worst damage from the typhoon. There, 287 people died." - merge
  • Done. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
• Boac is a dab
  • Corrected. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
• Too much of the 2nd lede paragraph is "In [X location], [Y effects happened]." Try changing up the structure
  • Better. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
• "a little over 90,000 houses were destroyed" - is there a reason you used this wording instead of the equally factually "about 90,000..."
  • To mix it up, but changed. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
• Why no Philippine death toll in the lead?
  • Noted. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
• "An area of convection developed in mid-November near the International Date Line" - this could refer to anywhere from Antarctica to the North Pole.
  • Better? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• Kinda, but that could still be in the SHEM. Give people some general idea where the storm formed. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• I added NHEM, but feel it's too wordy now. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• "a Tropical Cyclone Formation Alert (TCFA) was issued by the JTWC" - avoid passive voice
  • Tweaked. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
• "Continuing to rapidly become better organized while moving west-northwest, the JTWC " - the JTWC was becoming organized?
  • Right :P YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• You have another one of those - "Following a significant increase in organization, the JTWC issued..." Don't use these dangling participles. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• I was afraid you were gonna bring this up. Should be fixed though. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• " 110 km (68 mi)" - round?
  • Whoops. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
• The MH is a bit long, but not because of excessive details. You mention a lot about intensification slowing, continuing, and small changes in movements. In the grand scheme of things, I think these can be cut down a bit
  • Cut back a little. Better, worse, or the same? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• Little better, but could you merge two of the paragraphs? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

•  Done. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• " 215 km/h (135 mph), making it a low-end Category 5 system" - 135 mph is C4. But lead says 165 mph. Which one is right?
  • Fixed. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
• Where was the Luzon landfall?
  • That's unfortunately quit vague in the ATCR. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• Do you have the landfall point? If so, you can give the mileage to the nearest major city or province. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• No. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• "After passing near Truk, which has a population of 42,000, Typhoon Nina brought heavy damage to the area." - after or while?
  • Changed. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
• "Hundreds of people were evacuated while the typhoon also inflicted severe crop damage" - neither relate to each other, so why are they mentioned in the same sentence? The whole section just seems like a jumble of text without much flow.
  • Better? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• No. Why did you get rid of the bit about crop damage? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• Brought back, but I don't like the wording at all. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• "many fisherman ignored the aforementioned warnings and refuse to feel to higher ground" - what does this mean?
  • Was I drunk? Anyhow, fixed. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• Are you still drunk?! "many fisherman ignored the alters and refused to flee to higher ground" - the alters?? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• Maybe. Fingers crossed, but I think it is fixed. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• "where 287 people drowned due to storm surge" - were all of the deaths due to storm surge? Or just most
  • All it seems. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
• " Initially, only eleven provinces were declared a state of emergency,[35] but by November 29, this total increased to 17" - use the same number format
  • Good call. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
• "Around 11,000 lb (5,000 kg) of rice was withdrawn for uses in eight provinces" - what do you mean, withdrawn?
  • Cleared up. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Overall the article is in decent shape, but it needs some more loving before I pass the nomination. On hold for now. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:59, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Still needs a bit more loving. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

The article is beloved by all :P! YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Todo (2017)

Add stuff from RW. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 18:40, 4 August 2017 (UTC)