Talk:Tyropoeon Valley

Robinson?

Anybody know who "Robinson" was? -- Zoe

Robinson was one of the first archeologists to conduct a scientific survey of the Holy Land. His most important excavations were conducted in Jerusalem, especially on the supporting walls of the Temple Mount and in David's City (modern Silwan). Danny

Thanks, Danny. Do you know his full name so we can do a link to him? -- Zoe

Edward Robinson, called the Father of Biblical Archeology. Personally, I think the honor should go to Kenyon, but who am I to argue with tradition (besides, then it would be Mother of Biblical Archeology). Danny

Robinson's Gate was discovered in, I think, the 1980s, not to be a bridge across the valley: no remains beyond the first arch were found. It is now thought to have been a single arch, followed by steps leading down to the street alongside the Western Wall. Warren's Arch, further north, was the bridge that spanned the valley. However, I am not an expert on this issue, so I am reluctant to alter the main article. Michael Grant 12:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Cheesemongers, of Brian fame

"Valley of the Cheesemongers"? -- now I see where Monty Python's "Blessed are the Cheesemakers" comes from.

I think it was 'Blessed are the cheesemakers'. What's so special about the cheesemakers?

Well, obviously, it's not meant to be taken literally, it refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.

Monty Python, Life of Brian

LOL~ -- Zoe

Isn't a cheesemonger a tyropoleion, and a tyropoeon a cheesemaker? -phma

Copied from Easton & unknown source, outdated, unfinished

Initially everything here was copied & pasted word for word from Easton. Public domain or not, but that's VERY poor, and probably not allowed, either.

Both Easton's text and the 2 maps are wholly outdated. I removed the worst one, somebody thankfully took out Robinson's Arch, but that's just the beginning.

The etymology discussion is important. What we have is ALMOST right, but totally unsourced.

All in all, VERY poor state of affairs as of now. Arminden (talk) 18:43, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

"Central Valley"

It was the "outer valley" just as long as the city only covered the eastern ridge, but once it grew westwards (twice: before Babylonian destruction, and again from, probably, the Hasmonean period and until the Roman destruction), it was the central valley, and that's how it's called by archaeologists, capitalised or not. Arminden (talk) 18:43, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Streets

Herod built an impressive thoroughfare through the valley, at least along its Temple Mount section. The stepped street with its grand water channel leading down toward Siloam Pool, apparently the work of Pilate, followed the valley and earlier, more modest streets and channels. Most have enWiki pages by now: links!

The Roman & Byzantine valley cardo ran along it, as does the Tariq al-Wad/Rehov HaGai, both names meaning: the valley street. The modern names prove that it might not be a ravine anymore, but neither is it a plain. Arminden (talk) 18:43, 5 January 2024 (UTC)