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Move page to UEFA European Football Championship

Please move the page to UEFA European Football Championship as that is the official name of the tournament, UEFA European Championship is just a shorter name for the tournament and not the official name. AhmedEdits (talk) 10:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

We use common names used in media, not official full names. Snowflake91 (talk) 11:08, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Proposal (incorrect use of EU symbols).

This a little proposal for 2020 edition, use of EU its not the better idea for use this time. Reason:

1.- European Championships it's a deportive competition and its held for an organization called UEFA. European Union it's no a deportive organization.
2.- Azerbaijan, England, Russia and Scotland were host and did not belong to the EU.
3.- The official UEFA symbols, inside the stadiums as well, are: Home-team flag, Away-team flag, host country flag, FIFA flag, UEFA flag and slogan flag/Fair Play.
4.- The organization of UEFA Euro 2020 was not held/in charge of the Council of Europe or EU. Perhaps these options can be published:

Option 1 Europe. (perfectly represents the territory where it was played).
Option 2 Europe. (represents the operating territory).

Thank You so much! @Bmcollier Rey1996ss (talk) 19:58, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Oppose - It is clearly explained at Flag of Europe that the blue flag with yellow stars officially represents the entire continent and not just the Union, so its perfecetly fine to use it. And this is Wikipedia, not UEFA organization, we are not bound to use the flags that UEFA is using inside stadiums, so your 3rd and 4th reason makes no sense. Snowflake91 (talk) 20:09, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Well the article actually states that it's the flag of the Council of Europe, a supranational organisation, despite the summary box containing an unsourced entry stating "continental flag of Europe" which isn't a thing. And it may have originally been the flag of the Council of Europe, but the article clearly states that "Dual use by the CoE and EU become controversial in non-EU CoE states such as Switzerland. As a result the CoE in 1999 introduced, for its own use, a variant flag superimposing a silver cursive "e" through and around the circle of golden stars." So by your logic, it would make more sense to use the new flag of the Council of Europe, as displayed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Europe#/media/File:Council_of_Europe_logo_(2013_revised_version).svg

But regardless of whether it's perceived as the flag of the EU, or the CoE, they're both supranational organisations, whose flags, as mentioned by the contributor below, shouldn't be used without relevance. Neither the CoE nor the EU *are* the continent of Europe. From the style guide: "For instance, the Flag of Europe is appropriately used on articles related to the European Union, the Council of Europe and other situations where this flag can be used to represent Europe. In sport, supranational flags should only be used to represent a supranational team or a supranational competition, where the team or competition use the supranational flag." That was not the case in this competition, so it seems rather cut and dried to me. Bmcollier (talk) 07:40, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

 Yes, agree. The edition not was "Uefa Euro Council of Europe 2020". The EU is a political/economic organization, this is a sporting event. The flag usage guide says: Do not use supranational flags without direct relevance.

Flags should be used with moderation. 201.160.207.198 (talk) 16:43, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

What a surprise, a Mexico-based IP with no previous edits, agreeing with the user also interested in Mexico-related articles, in a dispute about flags in European competitions out of nowhere – and it also happens that both the IP and the user edited Revelations Cup in the span of a few hours...what a coincidence... if you're socking, then at least dont make it so obvious. You know that this can get your account blocked, right? Snowflake91 (talk) 17:12, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

 Yes, agree. The flag might have been classified as a flag of the continent of Europe, but no-one understands it that way, and defining it as such is almost an act of EU jingoism. And I prefer option 1. Bmcollier (talk) 07:27, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Both of those alternatives are useless anyway, so if we remove the EU flag it should be replaced with nothing, it should be only "2020" without any flags or icons. Snowflake91 (talk) 09:21, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

I don't disagree, but the problem I fear with doing that is that someone with helpful intent will come along and re-add the EU flag without reading the Talk section. Bmcollier (talk) 11:21, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

the flag has 3 uses. Flag of Europe. Flag of the CoE. And the Unions official flag. 2A02:2121:CA:8016:2412:6C5E:D5B5:9F47 (talk) 14:42, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - It isn't the flag of the European Union, it's the flag of the Council of Europe, which includes (or has included) all of the recognised nations of Europe (and almost all of the UEFA nations). Use of the Flag of Europe to represent the various nations that hosted Euro 2020 is not unreasonable. – PeeJay 16:37, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

  Still its also the official flag of the Union. 2A02:2121:CA:8016:2412:6C5E:D5B5:9F47 (talk) 14:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Yugoslavia

So Chechslovakia entery, both countries got the win recorded. But the runner-up achieved by Yugoslavia is only registered to Serbia, while also few other countries where part like Croatia. 2A02:2121:CA:8016:2412:6C5E:D5B5:9F47 (talk) 14:52, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

As I said in the edit summary, go and complain to UEFA regarding this and not here, because this is exactly how they treat things, check history section on UEFA Euro website. Snowflake91 (talk) 15:21, 21 June 2024 (UTC)