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Merger proposal for True Grit

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Merge given weak consensus and little recent opposition. Klbrain (talk) 11:28, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

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I think that True Grit (mascot) should be merged into this article. The current wiki page for True Grit cites no references, and does not indicate that he passes the WP:GNG test for standalone pages. This page is the most appropriate venue for him. -Jhortman (talk) 15:04, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Oppose I see two references on the page. The source article is presently linked to by 7 other articles (plus other pages) so it seems clumsy to merge it in at this time.--Paul McDonald (talk) 14:53, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Comment The two references on the page are primary references from UMBC itself. Primary references are not sufficient to meet the WP:GNG guideline. And the text of the current article could easily be added to the UMBC article in a new section with a redirect established from the old link. I don't think that's clumsy at all. -Jhortman (talk) 20:18, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Oppose Typically the primary mascot of a college sports team qualifies for its own article as passing WP:GNG. I see no reason to make an exception here.--Paul McDonald (talk) 14:47, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Support, on the basis there's quite clearly no evidence that True Grit meets WP:GNG and there's certainly no clause in WP:GNG saying college mascots are automatically notable. The mascot could easily be mentioned in a short paragraph in the main article. Sionk (talk) 18:33, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

• Merge fails GNG (as presented) and User:Paulmcdonald my understanding is that presumptions of notability are a strong argument on places, etc but a mascot is far from indisputable reality - absent of secondary sources we'd be prone to student pranks, so on balance (and not having seen any such presumption of a mascot - come on, a mascot!) then merge is prudent, failing that deletion per GNG (tags reinstated). Widefox; talk 23:47, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
• Merge: agree that there isn't independent notability for the mascot and that UMBC Retrievers page is of a sufficient size to accommodate it as a distinct section. Klbrain (talk) 16:02, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
  • In my defense, I'm not confident what I was thinking five years ago when I commented originally. This discussion has been dead a while, whatever works is fine by me.--Paul McDonald (talk) 01:24, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

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