Talk:USS Kasaan Bay/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk · contribs) 15:26, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi! I'll take this one. If you have any queries about my comments feel free to ask.

• Duplicated links:

• Sister ship in Design and construction and first paragraph of Service history
• Operation Dragoon in Design and construction and second paragraph of Service history
• Escort carrier in Construction and first paragraph of Service history

• The source links for the images File:F6F-5 on cat of USS Kasaan Bay (CVE-69) off France 1944.jpg, File:FM-1 Wildcat takes off from USS Kasaan Bay (CVE-69) 1944.jpg, and File:F6F-5 on cat of USS Kasaan Bay (CVE-69) off France 1944.jpg are broken.
• Her service in the US Atlantic Fleet is noted in the service record infobox but not specifically in the main text

Lead

• Reference 4 located in lead - the information relating to the location of the bay could easily be moved to the Construction section, removing the need for a reference here.
• This lead is quite short for a 2000 word article, a little more operational history here wouldn't go amiss.

Design and description

• "the most numerous type of aircraft carriers" > "the most numerous type of aircraft carrier"
• Not sure linking a main article here is necessary - might as well link the first mention of Casablanca-class escort carrier instead.
• "...in order to replace heavy early war losses" - one supposes that this method was chosen because the replacements could be built quickly, could this be emphasised?
• Provide a link for "reciprocating steam engines", it's certainly not a universally understood concept!
• "Her compact size necessitated the installment of an aircraft catapult at her bow" - expand on why this was the case?
• Link "fore and aft" or change to less nautical terminology
• Link "stern"
• Regularise the spelling of numbers, e.g. you have "doubled to sixteen" and "for a total of 35 aircraft"

Service history

• "arriving on 28 February for overhaul" - what kind of overhaul was this? It seems to have lasted three months and suggests considerable changes
• "informed that they were to take part in planned Operation Dragoon" - removed planned, unnecessary word
• "raised his flag over Tulagi" - change to something clearer like "...Tulagi became Rear admiral Calvin T. Durgin's flag ship"
• " as a part of Task Group 27.7" - does this task group also include Tulagi and Durgin? The next sentence suggests this but it could be made clearer here that Kasaan is not alone/separated
• "which now had a wholly new screen" - technical language that needs explaining
• Link "longitude"
• "the Allied surface forces opened up" > "the Allied surface forces opened fire"
• Link "beachheads"
• Link "sorties"
• "...one of the three remaining Hellcats..." - this suggests that only three Hellcats are still airborne at this point, but the earlier text says only one was actually lost before this.
• "found it necessary to grind the lugs of other bombs" - another technical sentence, I've no idea what it means!
• "and quieted down somewhat" - remove the somewhat, unnecessary chatty language
• "intention of only using them for screening machines" > "intention of only using them as screening machines"?
• "There, Captain Albert Noble Perkins took over command of the vessel. In addition, Kasaan Bay was assigned to the United States Pacific Fleet." > "There, Captain Albert Noble Perkins took over command of Kasaan Bay and she was assigned to the United States Pacific Fleet"
• "She was decommissioned and mothballed on 31 July 1946, joining the Boston group of the Atlantic Reserve Fleet, on 6 July 1946" - is this correct chronologically?

References look good.

That's all I have for now, give me a ping for any further comments or elaboration! Thanks, Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 15:26, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

@Pickersgill-Cunliffe: I've addressed your points. Stikkyy t/c 19:45, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm happy with the majority of your corrections, just a few minor points left:

• "found it necessary to grind the bomb suspension lugs of other bombs in order to provide an adequate supply of munitions" - this phrase still doesn't make much sense to me. How does grinding the bomb suspension lugs of other bombs provide an extra supply of munitions? I think I can see what you're aiming to describe here but it needs to be much clearer.
• Image placement needs to be slightly adjusted so that the final word of paragraph seven of Service history isn't all on its own.

• It depends heavily upon ones' screen size, for me, there's a solid three lines of margin below the image. There really isn't a one size fix all solution with regards to this.

• I've added a notes section to make your note appear and remove the cite error message from the page, but the note itself still requires a reference of its own.

• Forgot to get rid of it in the lead, I wanted to move it downwards.

• The destroyer link needs to be moved to the first appearance (just above)
• Atlantic Fleet needs linking in the main text

Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 20:35, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

@Pickersgill-Cunliffe:  Done Stikkyy t/c 06:25, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Those changes look great. One more query to satisfy; the link to VF-74 doesn't seem to contain any service history, or indeed possibility of such service, on Kasaan Bay. Is this the unit/link you meant it to be? Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 14:57, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

@Pickersgill-Cunliffe: Yeah. Oddly enough, the source used for the page doesn't seem to include anything in 1944, despite the fact that I would think that it merits inclusion of some sort, but it still does aligns with what I've read. Stikkyy t/c 23:51, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

That certainly is strange! With that clarified I'm happy to pass this article. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 14:11, 12 July 2021 (UTC)