Talk:USS Sidney C. Jones/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk · contribs) 16:24, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

I'll take a look at this shortly. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 16:24, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Prelim

• No duplicated links
• No edit wars
• No images to check. If there's nothing directly involving her, suggest adding something/someone relating to her service
  • I've added the larger view of the mortar flotilla that a crop is being used for on the Maria J. Carlton article, although Sidney C. Jones is hidden in the background.
• Earwig reports copyvio unlikely

Lede and infobox

• Is the naval ensign necessary in the infobox? Only questioning because its inclusion seems to vary in similar articles
  • No clue, I've always just left whatever was present in. Looking back I see Squando, Maria J. Carlton, Indianola, and Varuna didn't have it, while Curlew and R. B. Forbes did. I could start a discussion at WT:SHIPS, where there's one I'm involved in relative to CSA ironclads and merging into class articles
• Armament is usually laid out like "1 × 13-inch mortar" rather than "one 13-inch mortar"
  • Done
• Perhaps the type should be mortar schooner rather than just schooner?
  • Done

Construction and characteristics

• Any idea who Sidney C. Jones was?
  • Not that I've seen. One of her 10 co-owners when launched in 1856 was apparently named Lewis C. Jones, so maybe it's one of his relatives. This one's civilian service is even more obscure than most of the others
• Link shipbuilding yard
  • Linked
• "and was expected to be captained by Benoni Southworth." suggest changing to a more simple "...captained by Benoni Southworth" (might be an argument that this info is trivial, depending on what you know of Southworth!)
  • Removed. Southworth appears to be mainly lost to history, and the ref only supports that he was expected to be the ship's captain, not that he already was.
• I believe you're looking for G.E. Goodspeed, not E.G. Goodspeed, per ref. #6. (Assume that's also the later mentioned George E. Goodspeed)
  • Silverstone does have "E.G." but that's probably a typo, so I've switched it to GE and cited the Hartford Courant ref

Civil War operations

• The section is titled "Civil War", but the war isn't outright mentioned in it, which might be useful for the very casual reader at the start
  • Mentioned
• Mention that she was both bought and commissioned at New York (DANFS)
  • Added
• Your introduction of Robert Adams suggested to me that we weren't sure who commanded the vessel before then, but DANFS has him as the officer at the commissioning. Worthwhile moving his introduction up a bit.
  • done
• Porter needs a rank
  • Commander
• Link Battle of Forts Jackson and St. Philip somewhere?
  • Mentioned
• Was Maria J. Carlton in Sidney C. Jones's division? Your article says she was in the 2nd division, which I would assume was second rather than last in line? If the division is one and the same then you could name it, and perhaps add a little of the detail used in the aforementioned other article
  • I've added a little bit, but not a whole lot, since Maria J. Carlton was a bit more significant to the bombardment of the forts than Sidney C. Jones
• You've used Pass a Loutre Wildlife Management Area as a Pass A L'Outre link before, appropriate here too?
  • Linked
• Not sure the article is clear on when exactly New Orleans surrenders, and the surrender of the forts themselves isn't mentioned?
  • Clarified chronology here.
• The repair cost is a useful figure to provide, but is a little awkward at the end. Not sure where else you might put it though!
  • Yeah, I'm not sure where else to put it either, since it's not clear when these repairs occurred.

References

• References look good, AGF on most print. Ref. #8 could be split up considering the large amount of text it encompasses
  • Split up
• Sidney C. Jones isn't bolded out in the shipwrecks template beneath
  • Should be fixed. It had originally been at the useless dab USS Sidney C. Jones (1861), but had been moved and the shipwrecks template still linked to the redirect.

@Hog Farm: Hi, that's all I have for now. Will await replies. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 17:47, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

@Pickersgill-Cunliffe: - Thanks for the review! Replies above. By any chance, are you still considering standing in the coordinator election? Hog Farm _Talk 01:54, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

@Hog Farm: Have made a few minor edits/corrections which you hopefully won't find issues with. That said, am happy to pass this article as satisfying the GA criteria. I'll stick my hat in the ring in the election as you suggest. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 15:32, 11 September 2022 (UTC)