Talk:Ubayd Allah ibn Jahsh

Proposed merger

Is this the same guy as Abd-Allah Jahsh? --Striver 06:14, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

I tend to think the editor above is probably right. Considering how little data is actually contained in the other article, would there be any objections to merging them? John Carter (talk) 21:56, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Probably is not enought. A merger requires certainty. But he is most probably not right because that Abdallah died in the battle of Uhud. Str1977 ^(talk) 09:20, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

No, they are not the same. Jahsh ibn Riyab had three sons: Abd (Abu Ahmad), Abdullah and Ubaydullah. The latter name means "little Abdullah"; it was fairly common to give a younger son the diminutive form of his older brother's name.

Abdullah was killed at Uhud in 625 as a Muslim. Ubaydullah died a Christian in Abyssinia in 627. Abd, also a Muslim, was still alive in 641.Grace has Victory (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:55, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

I have now added some references, which I hope gives the article more integrity. I have deleted the assertion that Ubayd-Allah "divorced his wife". Although often cited, this does not seem to be true. The sources here clearly state that she served a widow's idda when he died.Petra MacDonald 14:41, 29 June 2013 (UTC)