Talk:Udit Narayan/Archive 1

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Changing/deleting: "Still today Udit Narayan is considered one of the best play-back singer in Bollywood. He can lend his voice in any kind of music. Though, he trails behind Kumar Sanu but still his music puts a smile on anyone's face. He will keep singing for years to come. A genius like Udit Narayan comes only once."(Nehal khan diehard fan of udit Narayan)

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"Today, Udit Narayan is considered one of the best play-black singers in Bollywood."—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.189.136.8 (talk) 03:10, 10 November 2005. (UTC).

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Question: Does he really sound like Shah Rukh Khan?! SRK actually did sing a song and his voice is not that great and he sounds nothing like Udit Narayan when he sings. Rather, Udit Narayan's singing voice "matches" closely with SRK's speaking voice, so when SRK opens his mouth to lip sync, people always expect Udit Narayn's voice to come out, the same way that when Raj Kapoor opened his mouth, we all expected Mukesh. So I'm not sure this phrase is really accurate.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Smalek (talk) 20:33, 1 May 2006 (UTC).

Question: What is Udit Narayan's true nationality? Is he legally an Indian or a Nepali? Swapnet 17:25, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Ans : He is pure Nepali.

Introduction

Who says he is better than Asha Bhosle? The author needs to verify his source. There are no citation or references given to back this statement. This is highly irrelevant. I have seen Ashaji on Colors TV intervew Ashaji said Udit Narayan is last telened singer in indian films. after him no other singer come with orignal voice and telend

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.95.54.78 (talk) 08:45, 23 March 2010 (UTC) 

Udit Narayan is 3rd king of bolywood 1- Rafi Sb 2- Kishor da 3- Uditji

uditji is one of most greatest signer in bolywood like rafi. he is verstle singer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.203.147.64 (talk) 13:51, 30 March 2012 (UTC) i am not agree with the text written above. No one can sing like Udit Narayan. He is versatile and was, is and will be the king of play back singer of Bollywood. His voice is unique. God has given him the gift of voice. Asif Iqbal from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Pakistan

Indain Music Celebrity Comments about Udit Narayan

− Udit Narayan is best known for his exceptional vocal quality and his originality. His vocal quality often compared with the Bollywood veteran singers like Kishore Kumar and Mohammad Rafi. His voice never resembled any of the old singers. Many musical biggies like Lata Mangeshkar, Asha Bhosle, Alka Yagnik, Kavita Kishnamorti, Sonu Negam, Jagit Singh, Kalyanji Anandji, Laxmikant Payere Lal, Farhan Khan, Yesh Chopra, Vishal Shekar, Anu Malik, Aamir Khan, Katreena Kaf, Pankaj Udhas and Anup Jalota believes that Udit Narayan is the best in his generation for his quality in voice and originality + Udit Narayan is best known for his exceptional vocal quality and his originality. His vocal quality often compared with the Bollywood veteran singers like Kishore Kumar and Mohammad Rafi. His voice never resembled any of the old singers. Many musical biggies like Manna Day Lata Mangeshkar, Asha Bhosle, Alka Yagnik, Kavita Kishnamorti, Sonu Negam, Jagit Singh, Kalyanji Anandji, Laxmikant Payere Lal, Farhan Khan, Yesh Chopra, Vishal Shekar, Anu Malik, Aamir Khan, Katreena Kaf, Pankaj Udhas and Anup Jalota believes that Udit Narayan is the best in his generation for his quality in voice and originality — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.203.138.157 (talk) 09:59, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

If you provide source then you can add this on the article otherwise it will be removed. Torreslfchero (talk) 10:44, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

kindly guide me how can I provide you the Source ????????????????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.155.43.51 (talk) 06:29, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Your sources must be reliable. Here and Here are some ways how you provide a reliable source. Hope this helps. Torreslfchero (talk) 07:46, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

http://www.santabanta.com/cinema.asp?pid=28039 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePmNq-PNEIU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCr5V-EXNfY — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.203.173.89 (talk) 12:01, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Well, you find at least a source, but the article don't have the statement that you have mentioned and also that the article is on Manna Dey which means that there is only few sentence on Udit. Youtube is not a good source for wikipedia. Torreslfchero (talk) 12:15, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

In youtube celebrity said own view in his vedio I thin is Vedio better statment then any site and I will other prove you after few days — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.155.36.30 (talk) 06:11, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, youtube is not a good source for wikipedia. Torreslfchero (talk) 08:19, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?showtopic=65689 http://filmnepal.com/profile_153.html http://www.jpop.com/Udit+Narayan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.203.134.132 (talk) 11:43, 18 April 2012 (UTC) http://www.raaga.com/channels/bhojpuri/singers/Udit_Narayan/Popular/2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.203.167.203 (talk) 10:55, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

wikipedia is not give compelete information about Udit Narayan

Udit Narayan is 3rd king of bolywwod his bhojpuri songs and bangli songs and others hits not include in these page I think Some people jelous with him http://www.raaga.com/channels/bhojpuri/singers/Udit_Narayan/Popular/2

The source you provided is not reliable to proof this. Torreslfchero (talk) 11:18, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

hahahahhah such is very funny criteria

Editing by the subject's son

Please be aware that Imadityanarayan (talk · contribs) appears to be the son of the subject of this article (and the subject of article Aditya Narayan), has been editing both articles, and has so far ignored my admonition against doing so per WP:AUTO and WP:COI. See User talk:Jeff G.#RE: for details.   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 06:59, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

change wikipedia procutre

WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO DELETE ANY WORDS AUR PARAGHRAF SHOULD BE GIVE SOURCES — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.50.246.168 (talk) 06:11, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

List of Songs in different languages

He is known mostly for his songs in Bollywood and Nepali. Every playback singer sings in different languages , no need to mention songs in all languages which aren't significant.--ANKMALI (talk) 06:53, 16 March 2014 (UTC) Udit Narayan is the most talented singers in all singers....Uditji god gift for voice — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.135.132.14 (talk) 12:51, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Removal of incorrect and speculative info from the page

In an effort to presents a fair and correct representation of the persona in focus, It is important for the patrons and volunteers to remove incorrect and speculative news and information form this page. This is to avoid hurting the sentiments, image and the feeling of the persona and his followers. We have made a small editing here to align with our feelings expressed here. Hope, this would be appreciated by the persona himself and his innumerable followers worldwide. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avijit17wiki (talk • contribs) 08:49, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

We noticed some anomalies including an old incorrect version being posted again. Hence, had to restore the biography with actual facts and information about his life saga (2nd. Feb 2017).

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Claim of 26000 songs

In the lead section, it was mentioned about the singer's 26000 songs which appears to be a false statement since no reliable source validated this claim. So I am removing it and if some editor wants to re-add this claim with a reliable reference, they are more than welcome.Kishfan (talk) 11:34, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Birthplace

Please take a look at the following sources which says that he was born at Baisi in Supaul district of Bihar, India. Sources: 1 and 2.Thanks. Jakichandan (talk) 00:08, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Apparently he told Nepalese media that he was born in Nepal:

See this Times of India article

• "Born in a little-known village, Bhardah, in Saptari district..."
• "Jha, who was reported by the Indian media as having said that he was born in Baisi village in Bihar's Supaul district, told the Nepali daily Tuesday that he was from Nepal but his mother's home was in Bihar."

But in this interview with Outlook (an Indian publication), he explicitly says that he was born in Bihar at his mother's native place:

• "in and around Baisi in Supaul district—my mother Bhuvaneshwari Jha’s native place in Bihar where I was born and brought up. She is 98 now. My father, who hailed from Bhadra, a village across the border in the Saptari district of Nepal,"

utcursch | talk 14:36, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

He again told Indian media (reported by News 18) in 2018 itself that he was born in Supaul district of Bihar. Please see source [2] in my previous comment. Jakichandan (talk) 15:02, 27 July 2018 (UTC) @Utcursch: News 18 even has a Video. Anyone can see if there is a dispute.Thanks. —Jakichandan (talk) 15:08, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

He was born in Nepal according to his interview with Kantipur ( Nepal's largest magzine ) see: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/south-asia/Artistes-have-no-borders-Udit-Narayan-tells-Nepal/articleshow/4037648.cms . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nm2135 (talk • contribs) 05:59, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Also see : https://www.culturalindia.net/indian-music/indian-singers/udit-narayan.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nm2135 (talk • contribs) 06:26, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

This link doesn't support the statement that "he was born in Nepal according to his interview with Kantipur. It just states that he stated that "he was from Nepal", which is pretty vague. Do you have link to the actual interview? As for [1], it's just one of the several random websites that repeat this claim without stating a source.

There are several reports that state otherwise:

• IANS [2][3][4][5]: "They say I was born in Nepal, but that's completely false. I was born in a village called Baisi on the Supaul district of Bihar in 1955 at my maternal grandparents' home," Udit said."
• India Today[6]: "I began performing quite early, singing Maithili folk songs when I was barely four or five, at village fairs and such places, in and around Baisi in Supaul district—my mother Bhuvaneshwari Jha’s native place in Bihar where I was born and brought up. She is 98 now. My father, who hailed from Bhadra, a village across the border in the Saptari district of Nepal, was a poor man."

utcursch | talk 13:48, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Please don’t beleive blogs he has Nepali citizenship and passport . Original source : http://kathmandupost.ekantipur.com/news/2016-01-25/udit-narayan-to-receive-indias-padma-bhushan.html talk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nm2135 (talk • contribs) 10:30, 5 September 2018 (UTC) See biography of Udit Narayan : tells about himself in Nepali (JHA) cast is Nepali so how can he be a Indian ??? That’s some false news . Source https://YouTube.com/OXPOPchbp40 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nm2135 (talk • contribs) 10:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

The links above are not "blogs". "Jha" caste is found in India as well. And you haven't justified your removal of partial Indian descent bit. I'll drop a note at WP:BLPN, WT:IN and WT:NEPAL for a third opinion. utcursch | talk 15:41, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Now that Nm2135 has been blocked as a sock, does anyone else have objection to this version? utcursch | talk 13:54, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Survey of sources

Sources that claim Udit Narayan was born in Bhardah, Saptari district, Nepal

• The Times of India (27 Jan 2009, quoting Kantipur): Born in a little-known village, Bhardah, in Saptari district in the Terai plains of Nepal, Jha left for Bollywood to carve out a career as a hero in Bollywood. [...] Jha, who was reported by the Indian media as having said that he was born in Baisi village in Bihar's Supaul district, told the Nepali daily Tuesday that he was from Nepal but his mother's home was in Bihar.
• The Kathmandu Post/eKantipur (25 Jan 2016): Born in Bhardah, Saptari in Nepal, Narayan has won three National Film Awards (India) and five Filmfare Awards.
• The Free Press Journal (11 Aug 2016): Born in Bhardaha, Saptari in Nepal, Udit Narayan Jha, popularly known as Udit Narayan was one of the most prominent Bollywood singers throughout the 1990s and early 2000s.
• Various Nepali portals covering Udit Narayan's visit to Bhardah:
  • Setopati: झण्डै दुई दशकपछि चर्चित गायक उदितनारायण झा बुधबार आफ्नो जन्मस्थल सप्तरीको भारदह पुगेका छन् । (After two decades, famous singer Udit Narayan visited his birthplace Bhardah)
  • Nagrik times: दुई दशकपछि उदित जन्मस्थल भारदहमा (Two decades later, Udit at his birthplace Bhardah)
  • Janata Post: दुई दशकपछि उदितनारायण झा जन्मस्थलमा, आफन्तसँग सप्तरीमा होली मनाउने (Two decades later, Udit Narayan celebrates Holi with his relatives at his birthplace Saptari)

Sources that claim Udit Narayan was born in Baisi, Supaul district, India

• Bangalore Mirror (13 Jan 2009): A front page report in one of Bihar’s newspaper has Udit seething in protest. "Some people are out to malign my name and cheat me of the recognition that the government thinks I deserve. Claims are that I was born in Nepal. But let me tell you, I was born in the Baisi village of the Supaul district in Bihar in 1955, at my maternal grandparent’s home."
• IANS (15 January 2009, published in Mid-Day, Zee News, Hindustan Times etc.): But the singer - who according to some reports was born in Raj Biraj town of Saptari district in southern Nepal - says that he was born in Bihar. "They are out to malign me and stop me from being given the recognition that the government thinks I deserve by saying I am not an Indian. They say I was born in Nepal, but that's completely false. I was born in a village called Baisi on the Supaul district of Bihar in 1955 at my maternal grandparents' home," Udit said.
• Outlook (8 May 2017): "I began performing quite early, singing Maithili folk songs when I was barely four or five, at village fairs and such places, in and around Baisi in Supaul district—my mother Bhuvaneshwari Jha’s native place in Bihar where I was born and brought up. She is 98 now. My father, who hailed from Bhadra, a village across the border in the Saptari district of Nepal, was a poor man."
• The Times of India (22 Mar 2012): "I am a son of Bihar; it is my birthplace and I have very close ties with it as most of my youth has been spent here. I feel proud being a Bihari and also feel lucky for being able to witness the centenary year celebration of the state," Udit Narayan, noted Bollywood singer told TOI on Thursday. [...] Talking about his struggle and journey from Baisi village in Supaul district to Bollywood, Udit said, "I belong to a farmer family and was born in a small village. Earlier, I used to sing at small fairs organized near my village. From there, I reached Kathmandu radio station and worked for Rs 100 only. But my hard work brought me to my present position."
• Dainik Bhaskar (26 Jan 2016): सुपौल जिले के वाइसी गांव के करजाइन बाजार में एक गरीब किसान के घर उदित का जन्म हुआ था। (Udit Narayan was born in Supal district's Baisi village, in the home of a poor farmer)
• Various Hindi portals covering Udit Narayan's visit to Baisi (Feb 2018):
  • News 18 (27 Feb 2018): बिहार के सुपौल क्षेत्र का बायसी गोठ वो जगह है, जहां उदित नारायण का एक मैथिल ब्राह्मण 'झा' परिवार में जन्म हुआ था. (Baisi in Bihar's Supaul area is the place where Udit Narayan was born in a Maithil Brahmin Jha family)
  • FirstPost (27 Mar 2018): बिहार के सुपौल जिले के बैसी गांव के रहनेवाले उदित की कोशिशों के चलते आज उनके गांव में बिजली लौट आई है. [...] उदित ने कहा, "मैं भावुक हो उठा जब मैंने अपने उस घर को देखा जहां मेरा जन्म हुआ था." (Electricity has reached the residents of Baisi village in Bihar's Supaul district because of Udit Narayan's efforts [...] Udit said, "I became sentimental when I saw the home where I was born.")
  • DailyHunt करीब 35 वर्षो बाद सोमवार को जब विख्यात पार्श्व गायक उदित नारायण अपनी जन्मभूमि (ननिहाल) राघोपुर प्रखंड के बायसी गोठ गांव पहुंचे तो गांव वालों ने उन्हें पलकों पर बिठा लिया। (After nearly 35 years, on Monday, when famous singer Udit Narayan reached his birthplace Baisi, the villagers welcomed him warmly)

utcursch | talk 17:15, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Important to add that just this month, he self-identified as a "Bihari" and confirmed his birthplace to be Baisi, Supaul:

https://www.patnadaily.com/index.php/news/13809-bihar-jharkhand-association-of-north-america-honors-singer-udit-narayan.html

MADHEPURA2018 (talk) 14:47, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

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Indian citizen or Nepalese citizen

Per the source, he is only listed as an Indian citizen. As such, I have changed it here. Unless, a source is found for his Nepalese citizenship, this claim should stay. (Highpeaks35 (talk) 05:12, 18 October 2018 (UTC))

Please edit the page he is a Nepalese playback singer wherever he was born doesn’t matter that he can say whatever he wants . He tells he was born in Nepal to Nepalese media and India to Indian media . . He had registered to be born in Saptari,Nepal in his Nepali citizenship so change the place or just remove the place right away . Don’t post false articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.34.22.68 (talk) 19:17, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Greetings

Udit Narayan my love my life Shahnawaz durrani (talk) 08:23, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2018

Please edit the page : Udit Narayan is a Nepalese singer who sings for Bollywood and was born in Bihar, India(according to him ) but on paper he was born in Nepal so its controversial so remove the birth place . </ref> https://www.justdial.com/entertainment/artist/Udit-Narayan/A964386 </ref> 110.34.22.68 (talk) 19:11, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

References

Not done - See the extensive discussion above, where sources have already been exhaustively listed and weighed. You can definitely participate in that discussion and try to achieve consensus to remove it (ideally with well-reasoned arguments), but a simple edit request is not going to overrule the result. For what it's worth, reviewing the extensive sources listed, I see several direct quotes from Narayan saying he was born in India, and no such quotes supporting a Nepali birthplace. In my opinion, to change the outcome, you would need to find a reliable source with a direct quote of the man saying he's from Nepal, or at least a trustworthy reference to some official document stating the same. A2soup (talk) 23:42, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

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