Talk:Ukuthwasa/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sawyer-mcdonell (talk · contribs) 19:40, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

@FuzzyMagma Hi! I plan on reviewing this article within the next 2 days. Super interesting topic. Ping me if you have any questions :) sawyer * he/they * talk 03:09, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Failed good article nomination on March 5, 2024

Upon its review on March 5, 2024, this good article nomination was quick-failed because:

it is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria,

thus making it ineligible for good article consideration.

This article did not receive a thorough review, and may not meet other parts of the good article criteria. I encourage you to remedy this problem (and any others) and resubmit it for consideration. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to a Good article reassessment. Thank you for your work so far. I am sorry to do this after my delay in starting the review, but I have to quickfail this GAN due to serious issues with sourcing. I'm concerned about the reliability of these sources:

• MAGIC SPELL CASTING ONLINE which my browser won't even let me access, but is clearly not a reliable source
• Best Sangoma And Traditional Healer, which seems like a commercial website advertising these spiritual services, not a reliable secondary source
• this book published by a New Age publishing company
• this book by an alternative medicine practitioner
• Umsamo Institute which should be used as a primary source
• this book, which doesn't seem particularly academic
• the multiple university theses & news articles, which although not unreliable per se, should be used with care

Together, these sources account for a significant portion of the article, especially the parts that talk about the rituals and religious practices themselves. There are a lot of really excellent academic sources used in other parts of the article, which I encourage you to use in place of the above-mentioned questionable sources.

I also have some other suggestions for the article:

• cutting down the lead - MOS:LEADLENGTH recommends around 2 paragraphs for an article of this size
• renaming the "From thwasa to sangoma" section to "process" or something similar
• the article could use more encyclopedic language, and general clarity of language when discussing the topic - Ukuthwasa is a culture-bound syndrome, but the article describes it as a "journey", a "traditional practice", and a "divination practice" among other descriptors. Using more academic sourcing may help clear this up. sawyer * he/they * talk 03:16, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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