Talk:Ultramarathon

External links

I think that the deletion of many of the events and runners is too extreme.facts How can you leave off Scott Jurek for this list? yes

 Even Dean Karnazes needs metioning because of his promotion of the sport.    —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wyorunner (talk • contribs) 23:41, 1 October 2007 (UTC) 

Yes. Some of these events I have never heard of and some events are very new. --I Wonder 22:31, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Does anyone think there are too many external links? In particular, links that refer to a specific race should only appear in the race article. Otherwise we will end up with a second well-known ultramarathons list. Arsine 15:46, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Before the Westfield Sydney to Melbourne Ultra Marathon external link is deleted, perhaps someone will get around to writing an article on the event. The Western States 100 link was added only because of its relative significance; the WS is sometimes referred to as the 'granddaddy of all ultras', though something like 'forebear of modern trail ultras' would be a bit more accurate. Ombudsman 21:04, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Definitely too many external links. This article should start with a general description, then history, then something like 'Ultramarathon culture in different continents' overview/compare/contrast with separate main articles for each continent. The list of well known ultramarathon runners and the list of ultramarathons should be linked to in the first paragraph. PeterGrecian 11:57, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I have removed a LARGE number of them, simply by removing anything that was a redlink. The way I figure it, if the race isn't notable enough to have its own page on Wikipedia, then it isn't notable enough to be mentioned in this article. Still, I removed a LOT of stuff. If you want to see the old list, you can still find it at this edit.

It appears that someone once tried to split off the page into a list of races and a list of runners. This seems like a pretty good idea. Anyone know what happened to that? --Mdwyer 20:30, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I am generally uncomfortable with the last round of edits- they seem to have North American-ized the entry. I think the edits were genuinely well-meant, but they are not good for wikipedia or for the sport. For example, Eleanor Adams Robinson has more world records than Ann Trason and is far more well known in the rest of the world! I would like to see the direction before- the list of races and the list of runners that Mdwyer is talking about. There will forever be people self-promoting themselves on here (like Ray Zahab a few months back) and so we will constantly battle to keep that page clutter-free. That is why I added the extra "World Record Holders", etc... to the title. Can someone who is more gifted with wikipedia than I am start a new page?

This page has started well-- but we need to go further to incorporate ultramarathon events and runners from outside the US. The oldest ultamarathons in the world were 'born' in South Africa (Comrades) and the UK (London to Brighton) and per capita, there are more ultras held in countries outside the US.

Marathon distance

Hi - an observation - in the opening line where the marathon distance is converted from km to imperial it says " ...traditional marathon length of 42.195 kilometers (26.21875 miles, 46,145 yards)." Is the .21875 miles the same as 46,145 yards? The imperial distance (as I have it) for the marathon is 26 miles 385 yards. Possibly someone could tidy up that first line. Gold Pen 16:03, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

.21875 miles is 385 yards. So, yes, 26.21875 miles is the same as saying 26 miles, 385 yards. --yycguy81 (Talk) 16:55, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Do you really need 5 decimal places? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zylstra (talk • contribs) 21:47, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Improvement

What needs to be improved on this to upgrade its status? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Runningguy (talk • contribs) 01:35, 26 December 2008 (UTC) Does Born to Run really warrant such a large entry? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zylstra (talk • contribs) 21:56, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Map Issue

I think that the map of North America is mis-labelled. Wisconsin and Minnesota need to be swapped. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.104.68.84 (talk) 23:18, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Ultracycling

I am questioning the relevance of this section in the article in particular with regard to WP:N. I feel the concept of ultracycling deserves to be more developed rather than just left looking like WP:ADS.
Ghaag (talk) 03:48, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Micah True‎

This is a new article on this unfortunate event involving one of the legends in the field. It will be eligible for a WP:DYK and your contributions would be appreciated. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:35, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Health Effects?

Perhaps a section on studies of the effect of running such races on things like muscle fibers, etc. would belong in the article.--Jrm2007 (talk) 22:29, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

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Tried to burn off the brushwood as simply as possible. More content needs to be pruned; in particular, the details per-region are too fat and should be reduced to especially notable ones. All other trivia can be moved to the list article or left to Dr Googles to provide. Tenaqzn'f Fbvyrq Gubat (talk) 06:43, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

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Types of ultramarathon events

"There are two types of ultramarathon events: those that cover a specified distance or route; and those that last for a predetermined period of time (with the winner covering the most distance in that time)." I feel this statement is a bit too restricting, and simply not correct. In fact, the huge variation between ultramarathons and ultramarathon concepts is almost a defining element of this area of running! There are multi-day events, a pletora of different surfaces, mountain ultras with huge verticals, street ultras, runs with obstacles, Backyard ultras (with neither time nor distance limits), orienteering style ultramarathons (with no clearly specified distance or route) and so on. I suggest the article returns to more restricted categorization as an intro to the championships and records section (50/100/200 km/miles, 6/12/24/48 hours, 6 days, FKT's, treadmill/indoors/outdoors, ...). ToK (talk) 22:48, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Number of people completing ultramarathons

"Ultra Marathons are run around the world with more than 70,000 people completing them every year.[64]" This is obiously not correct. Even the article that is given as a reference says that: "In 2003, for example, almost 18,000 people in north America finished an ultramarathon. Last year the number was 105,000." This illustrates two things: First the number of runners completing ultramarathons is currently increasing very rapidly. Second, the number of 70,000 people given in the article is much, much, much too low. I suggest that the sentence is changed to something like "Ultramarathons are gaining in popularity around the world, with a huge rise in the number of participants leading up to the 2020's. [64]" ToK (talk) 22:48, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Women's 48 hour record table

H @Ejdguiseley: I see you reverted my update of Patrycja Bereznowska for Jo Zakrzewski, claiming that the new record is "not ratified", however according to the referenced line below the old record is also not ratified - so why is this an improvement to revert? — xaosflux ^Talk 00:01, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

See fb.watch/iKvv-zQ_ql/ for what seems to be at least an acknowledgement by IAU of this. — xaosflux ^Talk 00:05, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

The current ratified records are here as cited in the article. Ejdguiseley (talk) 00:21, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

@Ejdguiseley thank you, I updated the list below here. — xaosflux ^Talk 01:31, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

World athletics rules

Dear Rundbowie. In your motivation for the edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ultramarathon&oldid=1245193263 you are, I would argue, both incorrect and irrelevant.

1. The race itself did follow the World Athletics rules. It was rejected/not ratified since the Hungarian federation hadn't applied for the IAU Label, which is not a rule breach of the event itself, it just meant it wasn't eligible for ratification. Hence the comment is incorrect.

2. Even if you believe that IAU/World athletics rules were broken, it doesn't remove the fact that GOMU recognises the record. World athletics is only one organisation and they only have a say about their own events and sub-organisations. The article (about ultramarathons) contains many races where World athletics have no stake nor claim. Hence the comment is irrelevant.

BTW your comment regarding the 6 day race in denmark does not cite any sources that the IAU rules were broken - on the contrary your link provides quotes (from race organisers and GOMU) that the race followed the rules. I'm not interested in you judgement of the race and rules, but of your claims. You are obviously invested in this, so finding a source supporting your claim that the rules were broken and the record can't be ratified shouldn't be hard. PS. I linked the official IAU statement as a source, and it says the matter is not decided yet, in opposition to your claims.

Best regards, Ax-ax (talk) 16:35, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

This is relevant here, I think. Ejdguiseley (talk) 22:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC)