Talk:Ultravox

Requested move

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Ultravox (band) → Ultravox – {"The band is overwhelming more likely to be meant with the name than the software"} copied from the entry on the WP:RM page

Voting

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• Oppose - in these cases I just ask myself if the article is findable easily. It is, so where's the problem? Also, most band articles are followed by (band) wherever the band name has any other meaning, so it's not as if this article is suffering from being different in that respect. Graham 09:43, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
• Support - The guidelines at Wikipedia:Disambiguation state that a primary topic can be "indicated by a majority of links in existing articles" — WLH:Ultravox (band) vs WLH:Ultravox (software) reveals a no contest! On that basis, I'd follow the guidelines for primary topics and move this to Ultravox, adding a link to Ultravox (software) at the top. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lox (talk • contribs) 19:46, 13 January 2006.

  Sorry, I forgot to sign my vote, marking as unsigned now! --Lox (t,c) 12:48, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

• Support. per nom and comments by Lox. Skeezix1000 18:24, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

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• Comment This move was proposed by Dissident with the comment: "The band is overwhelming more likely to be meant with the name than the software, as is attested to by the What links here page of the latter" --Lox (t,c) 09:35, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Moved. —Nightstallion (?) 09:49, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

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Pictures/captions

I've moved the two pics recently added by Enigmaticland to what seems more logical spots; also slightly modified the captions to describe the one with John Foxx and Robin Simon as the 'final lineup' of the band's 'first incarnation'. The prev. caption stating it was the 'first lineup' is misleading since Steve Shears was in that lineup, not Simon - however if anyone thinks it can be rephrased better, give it a go. On a separate but related topic, the source(s) of those publicity photos should probably be added to the image files... Cheers, Ian Rose 00:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Compilations and reissues

Is it worth adding the plethora of compilations to the discography? I'd thought about doing so until I looked at Amazon and discovered that there were even more of them than I thought. Still, mustn't complain, at least the compilation and reissue situation's nowhere near as bad as it is with Hawkwind, where it's got so ludicrous that they don't even attempt to tackle the insane list of re-releases...

On second thoughts perhaps it's better just to stick to the "main" compilations and leave it at that.

-- Chris (blather • contribs) 16:16, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

G'day Chris, I'd agree with you on all points above. The Hawkwind situation reminds me of what Douglas Adams once said about Science Fiction, namely that he thought he was a fan until he dug further and discovered a subculture and body of work broader and deeper than anything he'd imagined. However the situation isn't as bad with Ultravox and what we have here are the 'main' compilations so, as you say, let's not sweat every last one. Well done also spotting The Collection in the wrong spot. One thing though, singles should always be represented in double quotes, with italics reserved for albums; I know not every discography does that but it's the WP:SONG standard so should be changed back. Cheers, Ian Rose 00:58, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out the style issue, I didn't know about that; I've changed it back now. I'll leave the compilations alone, or at least for someone with the relevant amount of enthusiasm to catalogue them all...

-- Chris (blather • contribs) 09:09, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Sounds good - cheers again, Ian Rose 09:19, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Older Material?

What does this quote mean? "Island dropped the three Ultravox albums from its catalogue, and released a compilation of highlights from the group's first three albums in 1979, called Three into One, which was until the mid-1990s, the only available selection of Ultravox's early material." Does that mean the first three albums were unavailable until the mid-1990s? If so, most definitely not true, as I for purchased all of them in the early 80s. If they were deleted from Island's catalog that's one thing, but the paragraph implies that the albums were non-existent until the 90s.70.91.35.27 (talk) 17:57, 19 December 2008 (UTC)Tim

Band name

Can someone add info on where the name "Ultravox" came from and its meaning (if it has any)? -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 16:53, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

• Nevermind. Found out that it just a made up name by the band. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 17:58, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

John Foxx in an interview (unknown date): "The name was mine, it means in Latin – 'ultra' means 'beyond all reasonable expectations' and 'vox' means voice, of course." (source: Dave Thompson: Alternative Rock. Miller Freeman, San Francisco 2000, ISBN 0879306076, page 695) --GraceKelly (talk) 21:12, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Introduction

First sentence above is laughable you use the word "ARE" so I presume you mean "NOW" and you're using the word NEW WAVE - in 2012! only nearly 35 years after anyone would have described Ultravox in that way! and rock - hardly a "rock band" yes they used guitars sometimes but calling them "rock" is just misleading they are nowhere near being defined as a rock band. Synth-pop more than rock. Sort it out! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.174.159.254 (talk) 22:01, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Don't see any reason why not to use the word "are" (see other articles of active bands). But I agree with the two remaining items. The term "New Wave" is also mentioned in the following sentence (refering to the past) so we could easily get rid of it. "Rock band" - maybe a bit of it, but surely not exclusively. So what about writing: "Ultravox are a British band formed in 1974. They were one of the primary exponents ..." --GraceKelly (talk) 09:52, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

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Are Ultravox now disbanded?

As is stated and referenced on the page, Billy Currie has announced that he had retired from Ultravox at the beginning of the year (in fact in his Christmas message last year if you include posts from his official Facebook account). Should we therefore consider that Ultravox has disbanded seeing as there has been no statement of further activity from the band for a number of years' and the existence of a Cann-Cross-Ure line-up or of any replacement coming in for Currie is dubious? At the very least Currie should be moved to the past members' section as you need no additional confirmation of a band member's departure from a band than if it has already come from that specific band member - he's said that he's out so therefore he's out, no question. Kind regards, 86.183.108.108 (talk) 11:04, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

This is the full statement from Billie Currie posted on his official website on 4 January 2017 regarding his departure from Ultravox, it can be found on his website (http://www.billycurrie.com/):

"Hi People,

Happy New Year!

It was a very eventful year.

The 40th anniversary of Ultravox! The bands first album.

I, after 43 years, decide to do what all the other members have done over the years. Dump it!

My Doppel album is doing well. Thank you music lovers.

I am at a stage now with my new music project where the whole feeling is that it has a mind of its own. Every time I come to work it just grows and grows. The inspiration is continuous. Flowing.

The five piano pieces that I wrote at the beginning of the year have now turned out to be the bones of the new album.

No longer piano pieces. The feeling is Synths & Sequencers. No Drums.

Now full on Synth tracks.

This is good!

All the best,

Billy"

That settles one matter as far as I'm concerned - whilst Midge Ure's statement in the press may not be seen as definitive by some, there is no denying that Currie is now a former member. This is a statement directly from the man himself, posted on his official channels, where he states that he is no longer a member of the band. We therefore have two options - accept both Ure's statement as well and consider Ultravox to be disbanded (my preferred option as I believe it to be true), or else consider Cann, Cross, and Ure to still be members' of the band and move Currie to 'past members' alone. In any case Currie is officially out. Kind regards, 86.2.234.7 (talk) 11:49, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

No, we need reliable, preferably independent sources that state "Ultravox is disbanded", not just that a member departed.- MrX 🖋 15:13, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Also, according tothis source [1], "Now as his latest album Orchestrated is released, the singer [Ure] has spoken out on Ultravox’s future, something he seems unsure of." Ure said "“Honestly and truly, I have no idea. I think it’s probably finished." and "Midge added: “I mean I read Billy’s post about, ‘That’s it, it’s all over. I’m not doing it again’, but in reality there’s been no discussion about it. I didn’t know anything about it."

Based on that, all we can say is the Currie quit and Ure doesn't know if the band is disbanded.- MrX 🖋 15:34, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

In that case, as the very least Billie Currie must be moved to the 'former members' section. Kind regards, 86.2.234.7 (talk) 01:58, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Electronic music

Since the music of Ultravox may be considered a form of electronic music, would this article be of interest to WikiProject: Electronic Music? Vorbee (talk) 19:39, 23 August 2019 (UTC)