Talk:Umar ibn Ali

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Primary sources

Latest comment: 2 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

This article us tagged for reliance on primary sources, but they’re not primary. Mccapra (talk) 14:59, 14 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi Mccapra! Do you read Arabic? As far as I can see, most of the sources used here are Tabaqat works, which usually are medieval sources (I see Ibn Sa'd's work mentioned) and thus unambiguously primary sources. But perhaps some of these are modern Tabaqat works? Even if so, however, they would only be usable on WP as primary sources: being (in the modern context) a kind of religious literature, they cannot be reliably used as secondary sources. So while an alternative would be to use the {{Unreliable sources}} tag, I think {{Primary sources}} fits the bill best. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 17:10, 14 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Removing the Shia box

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The article is entirely based on unreliable polemic sources. Removing the Shia box and adding a few more relevant tags to the article. Albertatiran (talk) 08:31, 6 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

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