Talk:United Airlines Holdings

Why do we have fleet info here? Shouldn't it be on the "United Airlines" page?

I was wondering why there was fleet info on this page since it is for a holding company. I think it would make more sense if it was on the page United Airlines. United Continental Holdings is NOT an airline--it is a holding company--so it should not have fleet info. Do you think I should move the fleet table to United airlines page or not?

Thanks, Compdude123 (talk) 01:05, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, at the moment, United and Continental are still separate airlines, operated by a single holding company. Thus the fleet info is for the airplanes owned by both Continental and United, and putting it on the United page would be misleading. Once the merger is completed, the planes on this list will all be United planes, but that's not the case yet. --Jfruh (talk) 01:13, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I see what you mean. And after looking at the pages for other airline holding companies, I notice that those have fleet info as well. So I guess having fleet info here isn't anything out of the ordinary. --Compdude123 (talk) 01:18, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Continental no longer a running airline?

I know United Airlines and Continental got their single operating certificate the other day, but is it really correct to wipe Continental completely from this article at this point? In practice, the Continental and United brands are still being operated separately, with separate check-in counters in many airports, some flights still branded "Continental", etc. In some ways, it's the opposite of the various *Express airlines, which have a unified front-end with the mainline airline but are operationally distinct at the back end; here, there are still two front ends to what's a single airline behind the scenes, something like Delta's Song or United's Ted? Anyway, my point is that perhaps we shouldn't wipe Continental's name from this article just yet. --Jfruh (talk) 14:52, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

I don't see evidence of "wiping Continental completely from this article". The only thing I see is Continental not being in the subsidiary list. It appears from http://www.united.com/page/article/1,,53833,00.html that COA branding at major airlines has been switched over prior to the adoption of the single oc. As of the activation of the single OC (see ref. 6), the FAA only recognizes United aircraft designations and flight numbers. So effectively, COA does not operate an airline anymore (it no longer has a valid OC for the use of Continental flights or aircraft; i.e. CO, COA, and callsign Continental are no longer valid for use in US airspace). The *Express airlines are just codesharing and marketing agreements with various regional operators who operate the aircraft under their own OC (PSA, CJC et al). Cowbert (talk) 07:00, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Fleet list

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After the discussion has been open for a while now it seems that the way to go is to remove it. Also worth noting the section has not been sourced for 2 years + --JetBlast (talk) 23:38, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

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This should be removed. United Continental Holdings is not an airline. Please see this related discussion. --JetBlast (talk) 22:29, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Personally, regardless of Wiki policy, I feel it should stay. Disregarding the fact that United Continental Holdings is not an airline, it's an airline holding company who's main and ONLY subsidiary is an, you guessed it, airline. For the time being, all the livery information should stay as United is still in the process of re-painted exUA and exCO aircraft into the merger livery. Once completed, the fleet section of the atricle should look something like LATAM's fleet section. Once again, just my opinion. We will wait for more opinions on this. - DONALDderosa (talk) 22:10, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Should be removed and summarised, this article is about the holding company not the airline. Also all that livery stuff is not relevant (not even for the main article) to an encyclopedia. All we need is a one line statement about the fleet per IAG. MilborneOne (talk) 15:05, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

It is pretty much the same info as is on United Airlines#Fleet, all the more reason for deletion. The livery info is completely pointless. So get rid of it. —Compdude¹²³ 18:47, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

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Merger proposal

I propose that UAL Corporation be merged into this article. Nothing in either of the pages suggests that they are/were separate companies; rather, they both seem to agree that after UAL acquired Continental, it was simply renamed and rebranded as United Continental. I would think this can be compared to the transition of Federated Department Stores into Macy's, Inc.; the latter is not a separate company, since it is simply a renaming of the first. Both UAL and UCH have fairly small pages, so merging them wouldn't create an excessively large article. WikiRedactor (talk) 22:42, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

I disagree, they are not the same company. --JetBlast (talk) 10:45, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Why have you made the changes without a consensus? I have reverted your changes until something is decided here. --JetBlast (talk) 22:10, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I jumped the gun on that one. WikiRedactor (talk) 22:14, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

So is it only a renaming then? If so, then I would support a merger with some details on what the differences after the new name (and brand) was adopted. Dreambeaver(talk) 15:48, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

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Branding unsourced stuff

United Continental Holdings, Inc. The Company became the parent company of Continental Airlines, Inc. ("Continental") upon the closing of a merger transaction (the "Merger") on October 1, 2010. As part of the Merger integration, on March 31, 2013, the Company merged its two operating subsidiaries, Continental and United Airlines, Inc. ("United Airlines"), with Continental continuing as the surviving corporation and as a whollyowned subsidiary of the Company. Upon the closing of this transaction on March 31, 2013, Continental's name was changed to "United Airlines, Inc." ("United").

A Continental Airlines Boeing 737-900ER series aircraft (N53442) was the first aircraft to be painted into the new livery for the combined company.

United Continental Holdings also brings its larger airline services to smaller communities via its branding rights and ownership over the Continental Connection, Continental Express, and United Express trademarks. Continental Connection and Continental Express will be consolidated into the United Express marketing and branding as the merger integration moves forward.

As of late 2010, George Gershwin's 1924 "Rhapsody in Blue" will remain as the new United's theme song, the song has since been featured on new safety videos on United and Continental aircraft.

It was announced February 2011 that United would maintain its p.s., or premium service transcontinental aircraft and update the interiors.

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Above had no sources in article.

Moved to talk page. Sagecandor (talk) 17:13, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Berkshire stake

I see a case to include it, but only if other institutional >5% shareholders like Vanguard [1] are listed (and not in the infobox in any event). Power~enwiki (talk) 00:50, 17 May 2017 (UTC)