Talk:United Kingdom industrial disputes and strikes (2022–present)
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Alleged misrepresented sources
editDeFacto stated I misrepresented sources https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2022%E2%80%932023_United_Kingdom_industrial_disputes_and_strikes&diff=1140734399&oldid=1140729061 . I wrote
"In February 2022 Jeremy Hunt was urged to offer higher pay rises to public sector workers to end strike deadlock, because government finances were better than expected. In January 2023 the government got a £5.4bn surplus enabling Hunt to raise spending or cut taxes. The Office for National Statistics found this. Paul Nowak of the TUC stated this showed the government could break the deadlock on strikes. Nowak feared without what he considered "a fair pay settlement" staffing shortages harming schools, hospitals and other frontline services would worsen. Hunt maintained he would prioritise reducing debt.Hunt faces calls for bigger public sector pay rises after surprise budget surplus
The source states ""Jeremy Hunt is facing calls to offer a bigger pay rise to public sector workers to break months of strike deadlock, after official figures showed stronger than expected government finances. The government ran a surprise £5.4bn surplus in January, fuelled by bumper self-assessment income tax receipts, handing the chancellor scope to increase spending or offer tax cuts at next month’s budget. The surplus was £5bn higher than the government’s fiscal watchdog, the Office for Budget Responsibility, had expected, although it was £7.1bn smaller than in January 2022, according to figures from the Office for National Statistics. (...) Paul Nowak, the general secretary of the TUC, said the figures showed the government was “running out of excuses” to break the deadlock on strikes. “Jeremy Hunt must come out of hiding and help break the deadlock on public sector pay. After 13 years of pay cuts and pay freezes nurses, teachers and millions of other public servants are at breaking point,” he said. “If ministers don’t provide a fair pay settlement the staffing shortages crippling our schools, hospitals and other frontline services will just get worse.” (...) However, Hunt suggested he was in no mood for loosening the purse strings after an increase in the national debt. “We are rightly spending billions now to support households and businesses with the impacts of rising prices – but with debt at the highest level since the 1960s, it is vital we stick to our plan to reduce debt over the medium-term,” he said."
I don't see how the source was misrepresented. Proxima Centauri (talk) 16:18, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Proxima Centauri, I said
Non-neutral, undue weight to put it in its own section at the top of the article , and it misrepresents what the source says
. - The source gave views from both those reasoning for the government to make more money available for pay rises and those reasoning why that might not be such a good idea. You cherry-picked just the bits reasoning for the pay increases. Do you think that fairly represents what the source says?
- And even here, you only partially quote from the source, and only from the first two-thirds of it. You've here also omitted the bits that gave the other side of the argument. Do you think that fairly makes your case? -- DeFacto (talk). 22:07, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
Possible move
editI'm not going to propose a move yet, but wanted to get some thought on whether we should move this now the majority of the larger strikes are over. I was thinking of something like 2022–2024 United Kingdom industrial disputes, or United Kingdom industrial disputes (2022–2024). Let me know what you think. This is Paul (talk) 21:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)