Talk:United States occupation of Nicaragua

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why is this even a page..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.94.110.172 (talk) 01:00, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

El Sauce not quite the last battle

Despite Ivan Musicant saying that the Battle of El Sauce was "the last fight of the intervention," this website, https://archive.org/stream/reviewoforganiza00unit/reviewoforganiza00unit_djvu.txt, claims that another clash with the Sandinistas took place on the same day (December 26, 1932) at Valle Achiote and another took place on December 31, 1932 at Cerro Las Tablas. American Marines may not've been involved, but I still changed the article to say that El Sauce "was the last major engagement of the US intervention" (emphasis mine). — Preceding unsigned comment added by BDR77777 (talk • contribs) 19:03, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Recent move

Greetings. You recently moved "United States intervention in Nicaragua" to "American intervention in Nicaragua." It seems to me that although COMMONNAME would indicate the latter to be appropriate, COMMONNAME applies only when there are no NPOV issues; in this case, Nicaragua is also an American country, and therefore applying the name "America" only to the US would not quite be appropriate. The fact that other article use the same convention does not affect this issue. Thoughts? Vanamonde93 (talk) 20:45, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

I don't think there is a NPOV issue. Whilst I understand that "American" means different things in Romance languages, in English, it is unambiguous. "American" is no different from "Spanish" or "French", and refers only to people and things from the United States of America. Given this is the English language Wikipedia, there is no problem. English-speakers do not think of Nicaragua as an "American" county, they think of it as a "Latin American" country. However, I can move it back and we can discuss it on the talk page if you'd like. RGloucester — ☎ 20:48, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

I understand that it is the common usage; but there are frequent situations when "America" is used to mean the larger whole, especially in academia. Also, Latin American intellectuals have also tended to use "America" to mean South and Central America; they spoke of an American society to contrast it with a colonial/European society. I think this raises enough issues that it is better to be more specific. I can find some such examples if you feel they are necessary. So yes, ideally I would rather you move it back. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 00:31, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

That's absurd. It doesn't matter what "Latin Americans" do. This is the English Wikipedia. We speak English here. In English, the word "American" is the adjective for the United States. The minority of fringe intellectuals does not override common usage. The only one that exists is the Organization of American States, and that's an exception to the rule. Rename the article on Americans before decrying anything here. Regardless, I'll move it back as controversial. There are no "frequent" situations in English where "American" is used to mean anything other than "of the United States". RGloucester — ☎ 01:24, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

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Estrada's Rebellion Timeline Unclear

In the Estrada's Rebellion section it says in 1909 Zelaya resigned and Madriz succeeded him:

Zelaya resigned on December 14, 1909, and his hand-picked successor, Jose Madriz, was elected by unanimous vote of the liberal Nicaraguan national assembly on December 20, 1909. U.S. Secretary of State Philander C. Knox admonished that the United States would not resume diplomatic relations with Nicaragua until Madriz demonstrated that his was a "responsible government ... prepared to make reparations for the wrongs" done to American citizens. His request for asylum granted by Mexico, Zelaya was escorted by armed guard to the Mexican gunboat General Guerrero and departed Corinto for Salina Cruz, Mexico, on the night of December 23, with Albany standing by but taking no action.

But then two paragraphs later, it says in 1910 Zelaya resigned and Madriz succeeded him:

On May 27, 1910, U.S. Marine Corps Major Smedley Butler arrived on the coast of Nicaragua with 250 Marines, for the purpose of providing security in Bluefields. United States Secretary of State Philander C. Knox condemned Zelaya's actions, favoring Estrada. Zelaya succumbed to U.S. political pressure and fled the country, leaving José Madriz as his successor. Madriz in turn had to face an advance by the reinvigorated eastern rebel forces, which ultimately led to his resignation. In August 1910, Juan Estrada became president of Nicaragua with the official recognition of the United States.

Can someone clarify this timeline? Kurt Wagner (talk) 22:50, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

I also have this issue! There is a definite contradiction in the timing of Zelaya's leaving the country and Madriz taking over.A2fnr (talk) 12:36, 31 July 2019 (UTC)(A2fnr, 31 July 2018)

New, Probably Inaccurate Information

A new edit says that Franklin D. Roosevelt was the U.S. President who withdrew U.S. forces from Nicaragua. However, I believe the Americans were withdrawn on January 2, 1933, before FDR was sworn in. Simply do a Google search for "January 2 1933 Nicaragua" and one will find several sources saying this. BDR77777 (talk) 16:51, 24 May 2019 (UTC)