Talk:University of the Aegean

History section is a copyright violation

The page it was copied from is

http://www.aegean.gr/aegean/en/history.htm

The violation dates back to the first version of this article.

—66.167.253.20 05:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC).

P.S. As a starting point for a future version of the section, here's a snapshot of what I just removed (which has a few changes I created before recognising the copyright problem):

History

After the Armistice of Mudros was signed (October 1918), Greece was assigned by the allies to control of the Smyrna area in order to maintain stability and peace in the wider area. In the socio-political context, Professor Constantin Carathéodory - being a Professor at University of Berlin at the time - proposed the establishment of a new University. On 20 October 1919, while Greece was negotiating the normalisation of its authority over the “Smyrna zone”, the internationally known mathematician turned in a “plan for the creation of a new University in Greece”, named “Ionian University”.

Caratheodory argued that Athens, being the only educational centre in the area at the time, could not deal adequately with the growing needs of the eastern part of the country. He proposed three possible administration centres for the new university: Smyrna, Thessaloniki and Chios. The Government decided upon establishing the Ionian University, based in Smyrna, Asia Minor (in today's city of Ismir, Turkey) on December 1, 1920. Constantine Caratheodory undertook the task of co-ordinating the initial efforts.

The first plans included the establishment of Schools which would promote the development of the area as a key spot for the overseas Hellenism, while, when it was almost ready to operate, the University was considered just as good as other well-known European Universities. However, the Ionian University never opened its doors to students due to the Asia Minor Disaster in 1922.

The University of the Aegean is the continuity of Constantine Caratheodory's initial vision. Re-established in 1984, it is one of the newest Universities in Greece. Today, 21 years later, the University has 17 departments and has become one of the largest Universities in the country.

The central administration of the University is located in Mytilene (the capital of the island of Lesvos), while various departments have been established in Chios, Karlovassi (on the island of Samos), Rhodes, Syros and Mytilene. Because the University is set up on different islands, it constitutes a University-network covering all prefectures of the Aegean Sea.

One of the principal features of the Departments of the University of the Aegean is that they develop new scientific domains, usually interdisciplinary, which adhere both to the needs of the contemporary Greek society and global community as well as to students' requirements and expectations for high-quality studies combined with excellent career prospects.

The University of the Aegean has been developing slowly but steadily and surely, according to the Strategic Plans and the Five-Year Development Plans. In these plans the experiences gained both from the operation of academic departments on border islands and the communication within a University-Network are incorporated. These experiences have led the University of the Aegean to be the first Greek University that has fully been utilising Information and Communication Technologies (ICT)into its everyday activities, and thus implementing the Information Society in Greek higher education.

Change from "Department of Environmental Studies" to "Departement of Environment"

The Departement of Environmental Studies changed it's name to Departement of Environment in 2005

Gio195.251.131.13 11:13, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

There is no the name of the Dept. remains as it is since 1989 translated as "Departement of Environmental Studies" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.74.251.13 (talk) 13:51, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Citations

It seems that disproportionate space of the article concerns coverage of the student community by local newspapers, while little mention is made of research or teaching activity. A cynic would suspect that this is consistent with the priorities of the university, but as responsible wikipedians, we may want to consider whether all these citations contribute to the quality of the article. 87.203.157.208 09:33, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

References / Citatations to My Aegean

This long list of references may have to go because: a) most of them are report trivial coverage, b) most are hosted in the servers of myAegean rather than their actual context and are therefore hard to verify, c) all of them are in Greek, and therefore not accessible to the majority of users, d d) they are just too cumbersome. I am also puzzled as to why why the myAegean community needs to have more coverage than most schools of the university where the teaching and research takes place... 79.129.236.244 (talk) 18:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Why so much weight on "Gryspolakis Proposal" ??!!

There are some strong complains related to the so-called "Gryspolakis Proposal". Indeed, it is a fact, but there is a majority of people that do not take this proposal as strong as it is seemed to be presented on this article... I'd just like to put a note here, as far as I am concerned. [It seems to me as a targeted negative propaganda, due to lack of people who would like to collect and contribute with various proposals and claims that are somehow against this specific proposal... Please do have this in mind, somehow.. Thanx in advance]

Thank you for raising your concerns about this report. References to the report were included in the article because it constitutes the most readily available third-party information about the University of the Aegean. Such information is very important because of the Wikipedia policy of verifiability. However, if you have additional third party information that can help to put the Gryspolakis report into perspective, it would be very helpful to integrate it in the article. 85.75.187.217 (talk) 14:15, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Various unsubstantiated claims

In the article it is claimed that The University of the Aegean is an international university with a distinct research orientation. (emphasis added). Such claims seem to somehow stretch the semantic resources of the English language, in my view. To the best of my knowledge, the University of the Aegean is entirely located within the national borders of Greecem and its faculty, staff and students are almost exclusively Greek. The fact that the university is engaged in some international partnerships does not render it international. Similarly, I am not sure what is meant by the word distinct: there seems to be nothing unique in the university mandate that differentiates its research mission from that of any other university. For the time being I have flagged these words, requesting verifiable data that will hopefully challenge my knowledge. Absent such information, I will have to remove these claims in due course. 85.75.187.217 (talk) 14:23, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Response: The below comment has completely no grounds as geographical overdispersion is not specifically referring to the University of the Aegean yet to Greek Universities in general. This comment was therefore removed. What is more, the source is not in english but in greek language.

The unique organisational structure of the University was cited in the 2009 report of the Hellenic Quality Assurance Authority as an example of geographical overdispersion, which 'is indefensible in terms of quality, entails unjustifiable expenses, operational problems and redundancy in human and material resources'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.222.184.132 (talk) 13:07, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

The comment is an extract from the evaluation of the University of the Aegean. It factually correct, relevant and verifiable, and it is restored. I fail to see the relevance of the original language 85.75.157.125 (talk) 19:01, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

The Hellenic Quality Assurance (HQA) has evaluated all Greek Universities. On Page 19, one can clearly observe the general nature of the assessment "General conclusions on the current state of education" . Notably the name of the University of the Aegean is only mentioned on page 7 in a completely irrelevant context. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.72.41.242 (talk) 11:16, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

The Gryspolakis proposal

The "Gryspolakis proposal" is not particularly examining the University of the Aegean yet generally asseses the higher education in Greece. This source is not in english but in greek language. The source referred is a forum/blog ,to that matter, it cannot be considered an objective source and violates Wikipedia's strictly informative content. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.222.184.132 (talk) 14:41, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Despite being wide ranging, the Gryspolakis proposal contains information about the University of the Aegean. If you are aware of a more trustworthy source from where it can be downloaded, you are welcome to update the link. Also, if you feel that the proposal extracts have been mistranslated, feel free to correct them. Please do not use all the above as pretexts to remove information that is not aligned to your personal Point of View. 85.75.157.125 (talk) 19:00, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

The Wikipedia portal is a strictly informational portal. Therefore the alignment to the Gryspolakis blog can not be accepted as a valid source. The Gryspolakis proposal is a proposal/expression of personal views of Mr I. Gryspolakis. I feel that the previous user has correctly removed the Gryspolakis proposal content. Also corrected, the EUA assesment / survey was published in 2005. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.72.41.242 (talk) 11:03, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Please familiarise yourself with WP:NPOV and WP:Verifiability before removing information from these pages again. The Gryspolakis proposal contains verifiable information about the University (e.g. the lack of accreditation among tutors in some departments), and you seem keen on removing it. This is simply not how WP works. 85.75.137.146 (talk) 18:08, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Please specifically point the line and content of the Gryspolakis proposal that refer to the 2 departments criticized or please rephrase as I can not locate your input. If you cannot provide this evidence I will remove this input in due course. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.72.41.242 (talk) 00:12, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Can the author of the below paragraph provide evidence of the below reports a) in english b) create a separate wiki page on the Athena reform programme as it applies to a number of greek universities. An explicit link to that report can be later made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aegean University (talk • contribs) 01:17, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Academic Evaluation section

We genuinely do not understand what is the cause of discussing the evaluation of Greek universities in the university's wiki page. Secondly there is a reference to the evaluation report of 2005 twice. Is this an effort to undermine the significance of the university across the acritic regions in Greece? Do you understand the global impact of your persistent effort to "downgrade" the university by outdated reports (the evaluation report of 2005) as well you the reform act (of which UoA is a fraction of - hundreds of departments are already restructured/merged ). Can you please provide english extracts of the 2005 evaluation report as evidence of your reference to the report as well as english extracts of the university reform act. Sources translated by the users violate multiple wikipedia policies.