Talk:Unknown Pleasures/Archives/2016/October

Aliens reference

• I added the aliens thing. Maybe that's how people made line drawings in the late seventies but the resemblance is beyond coincidence. No, I'm not going to scan and upload an image, but it's there on film for anyone who wants to check it out. It's totally where they got it from. The movie came out a few months before this album.....but look at the movie!!! (Gatesofawesome! 03:41, 21 September 2006 (UTC))
  • IMDB says it was released in the UK a few months after the album was released. —ShaneCavanaugh 17:23, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Yeah, this is bullshit, so I removed it. They're both just similar-looking contour line drawings. The JD cover was taken from an existing image, of a type that was fairly common. Kingcobweb (talk) 09:45, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

removed spam

a webzine called "wireless bollinger" is spamming wikipedia with links to their site. 59.167.131.204 (talk) 13:58, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

inner grooves

I have the US vinyl pressing (FACTUS 1). It has no etching on the "Outside." As for the etching on the "Inside", it is not exactly from "Disorder", the opening line of which is, "I've been waiting for a guide/ to come and take me by the hand".Cloonmore (talk) 23:41, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Is that the original 1980 pressing or a later one? The first US release definitely has both sides etched (see also www.iancurtis.org). Later pressings might well be different, Factory loved that kind of stuff.  Channel ®    23:48, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I believe its the original US pressing. It was admittedly a long time ago, but I recall buying it circa 1980 or 81. Cloonmore (talk) 01:20, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I couldn't find anything definitive on www.iancurtis.org, but Joy Division Central's description of the groove notations on the original US release matches my copy (http://www.joydiv.org/up.htm), that is, no etching on the "Outside".Cloonmore (talk) 02:30, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Vinyl reissue.

Unknown pleasures was reissued on 12" in 2007 (I know this because I bought it) but this sin't mentioned in the article.(Morcus (talk) 13:57, 21 June 2009 (UTC))

Who wrote the music?

Unless i'm missing something. This article is missing this vital piece of information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.30.18.132 (talk) 18:31, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Citation lacking

I removed the phrase "and is now considered one of the greatest albums ever made" as it was unsourced. Rosencrantz1 (talk) 18:54, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

A possible, slightly less bold, alternative claim: "The debut was critically well received and Melody Maker’s Jon Savage said “Unknown Pleasures may very well be one of the best, white, English, debut LPs of the year.” However, it wasn’t until after the suicide of singer Ian Curtis and the subsequent release of the sophomore album “Closer” that “Unknown Pleasures” made a wider impression with more sales and an appearance on the charts." [1] But I see that wikimusicguide says that Q placed it at 19, not at 9, in 2000. Which is correct? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:45, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Demos

Most of the tracks were demoed a few times, imo most notably the Graveyard Studios sessions. I suppose this might be a good section on its own? Ceoil (talk) 18:45, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

I reckon so...go for it.....looks like we got another workup for GA....Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:24, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

CP 1919 image

There's a passing claim here that the original image is actually public domain. This seems unlikely to me, but does anyone know anything about this? Did CUP ever express an opinion on the use of the image? Any such information would be relevant to the article - and if it is a free image, it'd be great to have the original in the article, of course - David Gerard (talk) 11:37, 25 August 2013 (UTC)