Talk:Urban Homesteading Assistance Board

Learn more about this page

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Urban Homesteading Assistance Board article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

This article is written in American English, which has its own spelling conventions (color, defense, traveled) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

New York City: Housing Low‑importance

	New York City portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject New York City, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of New York City-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.New York CityWikipedia:WikiProject New York CityTemplate:WikiProject New York CityNew York City articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by Housing and Tenant Rights in NY Task Force (assessed as High-importance).

Squatting Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Squatting, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of squatting on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SquattingWikipedia:WikiProject SquattingTemplate:WikiProject Squattingsquatting articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Urban studies and planning Low‑importance

	Architecture portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Urban studies and planning, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Urban studies and planning on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Urban studies and planningWikipedia:WikiProject Urban studies and planningTemplate:WikiProject Urban studies and planningUrban studies and planning articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Let's have the the constructive argument.

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Urban_Homesteading_Assistance_Board&type=revision&diff=963971075&oldid=963896794 They are embroiled in scandals. How should that be written? Theochino (talk) 01:26, 30 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Possibly useful sources

Latest comment: 4 years ago5 comments2 people in discussion

In this edit I removed a bunch of material that was written in an argumentative and non-encyclopedic style. There were some sources included that I am listing here, in case someone finds they can be used in some more appropriate way in the article:

--JBL (talk) 16:44, 3 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

There is a scandal going on and this information need to be there. It's encyclopedic since Billions of Dollars were taken by this Non Profit. It's documented up to wazoo. Theochino (talk) 19:24, 21 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi Theochino,

The purpose of Wikipedia is to present a comprehensive, encyclopedic view of things. The text you've added is clearly not that; instead, you appear to be engaging in a form of advocacy, which is not appropriate (see Wikipedia:Advocacy). If you want to add negative material about an organization to WP, you need to do it with care for our basic principles like WP:V and WP:RS. Three of the four sources I removed look basically like blogs, and the fourth is a tabloid; these are extremely marginal sources for the kind of broad criticism you tried to add, and the language you used (plagued with scandals etc.) is not actually supported by them. I'd be happy to work with you to find a way to incorporate some content into the article, but it's not going to look like what you've written so far, I'm afraid. As a first step, what are the best sources you have available about UHAB (where "best" is in the sense of the guideline WP:RS on reliable sourcing)? --JBL (talk) 20:31, 21 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

HI JBL,

The sources are not blogs but real periodicals (even accepted in News Reddit) .... This is New York City and calling the NY Post a tabloid is a disservice. They might be the last investigative newspaper in New York City.

https://pix11.com/2018/12/11/new-yorkers-in-debt-losing-their-homes-as-part-of-program-designed-to-preserve-quality-affordable-housing/

https://pix11.com/2018/11/27/hundreds-of-homeowners-in-nyc-have-been-defrauded-out-of-their-homes/

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/02/nyregion/city-s-building-giveaway-prompts-council-inquiry.html

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-metro-third-party-transfer-carone-de-blasio-riseboro-20190527-xhyzyj2ksvgxbbqxocmasavf6y-story.html

https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/07/12/third-party-transfer-reforms/

https://www.thecity.nyc/housing/2019/5/2/21211102/brooklyn-foreclosures-must-stick-city-lawyers-argue

https://www.kingscountypolitics.com/court-cases-could-determine-third-party-transfer-programs-future/

Theochino (talk) 12:36, 22 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

I would like to know what exactly is your problem with the section about documented negative information. This is just the premise of a bigger scandal that is ongoing. By removing a real story you are basically allowing corruption to go undocumented. I am willing to. There is something bigger and hundred of new source documented here: https://www.showthebooks.org/news/

Theochino (talk) 12:44, 22 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Add topic