Talk:Urine diversion

Rewrites on 10 to 11 2011

My involvement in this page started when reading an article in the paper about a floating toilet..then finding out it uses UD. I have added a lot to this page in the past few days, however, it still needs PHOTOS!

I contacted a manufacture to try and see if I can get some uploaded. There are great photos on flickr but I can't use them per the license on wiki. If anyone can get more photos to help explain this better please add to page.

Something like 4 billion people on earth should be using UD to help recycle waste and control disease according to one reference I read. Hopefully a more complete article will generate more interest. Pbmaise (talk) 10:11, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Planned updates on 19 Oct. 2014

Hi to anyone watching this page. I am planning to put some work into this page in the next few days. I have already worked on the pages on pit latrine, SuSanA, ecosan and sustainable sanitation - check there to see if you like my edits. I am going to add better references for starters. I am also planning to create a new page specifically for UDDTs. EvM-Susana (talk) 10:29, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

FYI: I have now created a separate Wikipedia article for UDDTs. EvM-Susana (talk) 08:54, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

More information about UD flush toilets

These two sentences are not logically connected in my view, please check:

These two types of urine diversion flush toilets have been installed in both research projects and community scale installations in Australia.[19][20] In addition, the Swedish toilet manufacturer Gustavsberg was, until 2011, the only other manufacturer of urine diversion flush toilets.

Also, we should include a photo of a UD flush toilet in this article. Which one? EvM-Susana (talk) 08:54, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

I agree. --Spel-Punc-Gram (talk) 12:27, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Hyphenation of phrases

I changed "… toilets need some upfront awareness raising to ensure …" to "… awareness-raising …" because this is a noun phrase that seems clearer with a hyphen. Many similar compounds are written as a single word, e.g. "fundraising", so at the very least, a hyphen is needed. This change was reverted with the claim "not common to use hyphen for this". Googling "awareness raising" gives 4.65 M results, but "awareness-raising" gives 5.4 M results. QED.

--Spel-Punc-Gram (talk) 03:28, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Spel-Punc-Gram: Hmm, well that's only a small difference for the Google results (14% less). I suggest you raise it on the talk page of the awareness raising article because if you're right, it would have to be changed there, too? In the academic literature that I have been reading (in the context of sanitation and hygiene), I always see awareness raising (as a noun) spelled as two words, without a hyphen. Unless maybe when it's an adjective, like "awareness-raising activities". Perhaps that's what's contributing to the Google search results, too. EMsmile (talk) 00:34, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

EMsmile, yes, hyphenation is always a matter of opinion, a matter of how it "feels" to the copy editor. I should also admit that, after writing the above, I realised that my Google search was not a good test: this test works well for checking spellings (e.g. Matthew vs Mathew), but Google pretty much ignores the hyphen, even when the search term is enclosed in quotation marks (I’m really not sure why the result count is different at all!) But I think my point about fundraising is quite a strong one. Clearly a lot of noun phrases consisting of two nouns do have a space. I haven't thought hard enough about it, but I'd say that when the second noun is derived from a verb, e.g. raising, analysis, I feel that they need to be written either as one word or with a hyphen.

--Spel-Punc-Gram (talk) 00:52, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Spel-Punc-Gram please raise this issue on the talk page of awareness raising as more people might be watching that page so we could collect more inputs from people. Personally, I am used to seeing the word in the literature without a hyphen except maybe in those cases where it's used as an adjective, not a noun. EMsmile (talk) 04:11, 22 June 2021 (UTC)