Talk:Urushiol-induced contact dermatitis

homeopathic Rhus Tox

One remedy not mentioned is the homeopathic Rhus Tox, which is highly effective--stops the rash and removes the itch as if by magic. Perhaps someone can come up with figures and studies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.182.64 (talk • contribs)

Homeopathic medicine has not been proven to work. Mo-Al 18:29, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

For all practical purposes, homeopathy has been conclusively proven to NOT work. Homeopathy practitioners and manufacturers of homeopathic products have had many decades and endless chances to show that it works, and have consistently and systematically declined to do so. TooManyFingers (talk) 23:51, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Is This Necessary

"Urinating on the affected areas has no effect."

ROFL. What? I really don't understand the point of this. Is this some rumour in circulation? Is this really necessary to point out? It just seems really out of place, because there's not even anything leading up to the notion that something warm and acidic could help cure a poison ivy rash. In fact, previous statements already say what does. Why does this need to be here?

Possibly proliferated by the Friends episode, The One with the Jellyfish, there is the pervasive belief that urine will alleviate the symptoms of jellyfish stings. However, as the jellyfish article points out, peeing on the sting will actually make it worse. Perhaps someone related this myth to poison ivy? I still agree with its removal. Hoof Hearted (talk) 18:23, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Plants

Nice article. I just have a few comments on the plants. When possible, the use of scientific plant names has a number of advantages, especially with rare plants where different authors invent different "common names" which are not common at all. If we have an article for a plant, it is almost guaranteed to be accessible from the scientific name, while redirects from common names are less dependably present and less dependably correct. I realize that chasing down the scientific names is not always convenient, and that we're all unpaid volunteers. Thanks — Pekinensis 18:23, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

• Thanks, I certainly have no problems with the idea as I mostly just wanted to get the article started. I also went ahead and added my own pic of one of the plants... hopefully someone can replace it with a PD photo of a rash, which might be more appropriate. -Timvasquez 21:06, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Should more be mentioned that most (? all) of the folk remedies mentioned have little (or no) basis in medical fact - I remember coming across a reference somewhere which stated that jewelweed does not work (can't remember where, unfortunately) - MPF 23:49, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Sensitivity by population?

The article estimates that 20% - 40% of people are not allergic to urushiol. I thought I had read somewhere that there might be a population basis for this (as opposed to just being random)? For example, did Japanese lacquer workers (who used urushiol and presumably were exposed to a lot) insensitive? I know that mango and cashew harvesters routinely exhibit the dermatitis, so it wouldn't be an acquired immunity kind of thing. In fact, the opposite: doesn't it require an initial exposure, like other allergens? Jeff Worthington 20:57, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

• The figure came from the FAQ over at http://poisonivy.aesir.com/view/faq.html . Of course anything on the Internet without references is suspect (even my own editing), so I certainly don't mind anyone making changes. -Timvasquez 21:04, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

• When I was young, more than 50 years ago, I was completely immune to poison ivy, being able to rub the leaves over my face with no reaction. (Scared the hell out of my co-workers.) I don't remember being in contact with it since. Can I assume that the immunity persists, or should I, on the contrary, be even more cautious now? BTW, I have the vague impression that my immunity was not shared by my relatives. Too Old 04:06, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

• The claim in one of the article's sources contradicts this. Someone should check that out. Mo-Al 01:28, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Terms

Could less US-POV terms for clothing be found, please? "Pants" to most people outside of the US means underwear, and the wording is nonsensical to anyone not familiar with its US meaning of trousers. The problem of usurhiol is far from unique to the USA - MPF 23:49, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

The causative agent, urushiol, is not spread once it has bound with a cell membrane, and it is not found in weeping blisters. Thus, once the oil and resin has been thoroughly washed from the skin, the rash is usually not contagious.

Often people will think that poison-ivy is spreading. In reality they're experiencing the rash at a slower pace in an area than they did in another area, giving the illusion that it is spreading.

Excessive scratching may result in secondary infection, commonly by staphylococcal and streptococcal species. These may require the use of antibiotics.

I removed the text in bold because that fact has already been stated. Blueaster 00:16, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

howto

I've already cleaned up the poison ivy and urushiol articles to take out their HOWTO-ness, but this one needs a lot of work. BIG BOLD DISCLAIMERS AND WARNINGS are not encyclopedic. Anaphylaxis isn't a perfect article, but I think it's a demonstration of how to give information on an important medical condition without resorting to step by step instructions. We need to phrase this article in terms of facts, not "should"s. Night Gyr 06:15, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Disney World example

I would suggest that the Disney World example be cut from the article. It doesn't fit, and it seems to be unsourced. Agreed? Mo-Al 18:27, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

"Nearly Orgasmic Feeling?" ... ?

Can someone verify the "Treatment" description placed after "hot water" - nearly orgasmic feeling? Is this vandalism?

Sounds like B.S. to me, but I'm not an expert. (Besides, I don't see how you could verify whether something feels "nearly orgasmic".) Mo-Al 18:51, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, I suppose I could verify it (most any relief could be compared to orgasms when suffering from a serious case), but I don't think it's necessarily the best turn of phrase for this article. SB Johnny 19:14, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I rephrased it. Mo-Al 19:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

There is a certain amount of substance to that assertion. Came to this Wiki because I contracted Poison Ivy while searching for a golf ball in the woods - wanted to know what I am dealing with. When its itchy, try running REALLY hot water over the affected area during a shower - its crazy. 71.97.75.83 01:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm familiar with this treatment and there's a basis for it -- something about heat triggering histamine release, so you essentially 'burn out' your ability to produce more for appx. 30 minutes. Also, coincidentally enough, the New Yorker just had an article on the neurological basis for itching in the latest issue (~July 2008) and there's apparently some evidence that the brain regions involved are those of compulsion and reward, as for drug use, sex, etc, so (as someone familiar with the sensation, who can understand where the initial author must've been coming from) maybe it's more of an insight than a stretch. O_o 64.252.196.209 (talk) 08:08, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

// I can also vouch for this from personal experience. I have a very severe patch on one forearm. Running just-stinging-hot water (hot enough that healthy skin can sit in it indefinitely, but it still feels quite hot) over it creates an extremely intense sensation like scratching a very itchy spot, ... but much, much stronger. Under the heat, the itching sensation increases by a factor of 10x to 100x (versus the baseline itchiness), but the heat sting makes that itch feel "answered" (like scratching). The feeling is so strong that it radiates powerfully throughout my whole body as a weird mix of something like shivers and nausea. And yes, the motivation/reward axis seems deeply involved because despite the weirdness and intensity of the feeling, it also feels intensely vitally necessary while doing it.

// I can also vouch that heat treatment absolutely reduces the capacity of the area to itch for a while thereafter. I got the time-released prednisone shot for this outbreak, and am using various topicals in rotation, but none of this takes away the itch 100% unless I also do the heat-treatment. Taken in combination, they give me a couple hours of near-zero itch, then a couple hours of bearable itch. This is enough to get a little much-needed sleep, or focus on my job for a while.

// One caveat: don't exceed a temperature you can hold healthy skin under, or you could damage your already compromised skin, complicating recovery and risking infection. In my case, the crusted area is partly numb to heat, so I have to use other skin areas to monitor water temperature to keep it safe.--165.129.4.15 (talk) 16:42, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

§:: I teach classes in the identification, prevention, & treatment of poison ivy/oak/sumac. I'm also allergic to it. I can personally attest to this feeling. It's not exactly the same, but you can shudder over your whole body, and your knees can get weak. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomcollins88 (talk • contribs) 07:18, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Changes

Made some big changes to this article after developing a, ah, "personal interest" in poison ivy-related articles (draw your own conclusions). As noted earlier, a great deal of the article read more like advice from WebMD; while is was mostly accurate, it wasn't encyclopedic in tone and was sometimes excessive in content -- WP:NOT a health guide, after all. I condensed the last few sections, mostly concerning treatment, into one, trying to preserve what seemed appropriate for an article here. The list of common treatments were removed, as it was too heavy on the advice side. Should read a little bit cleaner now. Tijuana Brass^¡Épa! 05:43, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

"CPE"?

Added a comment to the article wondering what "CPE" might mean in the "Mechanism" section. None of the articles on the CPE disambiguation page seem to fit. N6 16:13, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Myths

In the myths section, it's not made entirely clear that the statements listed are false. (that's why I reworded it; though it didn't sound nice it was more clear.) Maybe someone should reword it better. Mo-Al 07:35, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Is there a basis for putting Burrow's Solution / Al acetate in the "Myths?" It's not a magic bullet, but anecdotally, sometimes using it to dry the blisters can provide significant relief when even antihistamines aren't enough. I'd also like to know if there's a basis (or non-basis) for an assertion I've seen that Al acetate will actually bind urushiol. 64.252.196.209 (talk) 08:16, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

To include Calamine in the myths section seems irresponsible when it has only one citation, yet the majority of the citations used for the rest of the article actively promote the use of Calamine lotion. ```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.126.245.162 (talk) 18:26, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Mechanism

"Chemically, urushiol is harmless to humans, but when it bonds to skin cells it initiates a T-cell mediated immune response."

Isn't bonding and initiating reactions chemical? Harmless? Why not just: Urushiol will bond with skin cells resulting in a T-cell mediated immune response. I don't even know if that's true, so I hate to change anything. You'll decide.

I believe the meaning is that it is an allergic reaction: your own immune system identifies urushiol as an antigen and causes the inflammatory response. This is not a simple chemical reaction, although of course many chemical reactions are involved in the biological immune response. --Chinasaur 08:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I've uploaded 6 pd photos, but don't know how to incorporate them

This is a rash from brief contact with poison sumac.

Day two A few fluid filled blisters, swelling, redness, itching.

Day five Swelling in the arm, fluid filled blisters, fluid that leaked from the skin. At this stage the blisters were easily broken by contact with the wound dressing.

Day seven: this picture was taken approximately 10 hours after beginning treatment with methylprednisolone.

Pictures are:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Urushiol-induced_contact_dermatitis_2_days_after_contact.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Urushiol-induced_contact_dermatitis_2_days_after_contact_side_view.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Urushiol-induced_contact_dermatitis_5_days_after_contact.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Urushiol-induced_contact_dermatitis_5_days_after_contact_blisters.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Urushiol-induced_contact_dermatitis_5_days_after_contact_closeup.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Urushiol-induced_contact_dermatitis_7_days_after_contact.jpg

topical steroid

It would be helpful to have more information about the pros and cons of treating a skin reaction site with steroid creams.-69.87.202.67 17:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

// I saw two MDs on this. One said the topical steroids are just markedly slower to take effect, as compared to an injection. The other added that the topical steroid creams can darken skin pigmentation of the treated area for years, though she characterized it is a dose-dependent response (i.e., seen more often with heavy use and/or perhaps in combination with injected steroid). I am currently fighting a nasty case of dermatitis from poison sumac. I've used the topical cream a couple times despite having also got the steroid injection (the time-released variant). I have not noticed any marked acute (fast-acting) reduction in itching from the cream. But I've used it (some) on the assumption of a more gradual benefit.

// One doctor told me a primary means of action of steroids is to shut down production of the lymphocites that are attacking the skin, and that these lymphocites live about three weeks, hence the typical 3-week recovery time. But I think she also said the strength of the lymphocites' attack is also also blunted somehow in the meantime. If so, then whatever that blunting is (any help, anyone?), the cream might apply a local extra dose of that. --165.129.4.15 (talk) 17:10, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Blister fluid

This article needs a cross-section diagram of the skin, showing where the fluid accumulates to form a blister. What are the best ways to drain the blister? What are the pros and cons of doing this?-69.87.199.208 21:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

There are no pros to draining the blisters. It will often create more irritation and itching, as well as permanent scarring. Further, it greatly increases the risk of infection. 173.75.251.214 (talk) 04:36, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Zanfel

Zanfel Wash for Poison Ivy / Oak & Sumac, Dual-Action Formula
Ingredients: Polyethylene Granules , Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate , Nonoxynol-9 , C12-15 Pareth-9 , Disodium EDTA , Quaternium-15 , Carbomer 2% , Triethanolamine , Water
US$40/1-oz tube, quite expensive!-69.87.204.208 01:31, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

• Yeah, but I consider this stuff to be a cure. After seeing how it works, I always keep a tube of it around. -Rolypolyman 06:38, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I think this section needs improvement. Solid scientific research is hard to come by online on this. From what I read online as to the effectiveness of this product most are personal claims coming from people posting how it worked or did not work for them. The studies that are cited in the section did not seem to be so "rigorous" based on reading the article referenced. Felix9x 10:27, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Palm less sensitive

It seems like palms are less likely to get poison ivy than the back of the hand or other parts of the arm. Why?-69.87.200.24 23:31, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I have poison ivy all over my palms right now, nothing on the back of my hands. I don't think there is anything real about this claim! Arak42 (talk) 14:32, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

It's supposed to be less likely to spread because the skin on palms and heels of feet are thicker. 24.63.15.143 (talk) 23:55, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

// As a kid, I had a horrific outbreak from barehand ripping out a thick bed of what turned out to be poison sumac. For weeks I was crusted thick from wrist to elbow on both arms. I had a much less severe response on the backs of my hands. But my palms and grip-sides of my fingers and thumbs, where my exposure to the sap was the most severe, were essentially fine! And much more recently (at present in fact) I have a very nasty case on one forearm that seems to be colonizing any new area it touches, except my hands. [ Now, I realize that medical practitioners repeat the official line that the dermatitis cannot spread. But I've worked in R&D long enough to know that official wisdoms are often wrong, especially in the very complex science of medicine, and I've found that practitioners are often the least able to think for themselves (with apologies and respect to those wonderful MDs who can). Anyway, skipping the many details, repeated and shared personal experience leads me to at least question this. (As for theory, if the dermatitis is caused by our immune response to metabolites of the plants oil, then can't those metabolites be present in the weepage, to contact new skin and prompt new local response?) ] --165.129.4.15 (talk) 17:55, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Myths, redux

The "Treatment" section ostensibly ends with a list of myths, but then actually presents a list of facts. (And FWIW, see previous comment from July 2006.) -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:27, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I just made a slight re-wording. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:29, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Some things..

Ive heard Bleach to dry it, Fingernail polish to seal it, and of course Calamine lotion. R.L. Nieman 16:42, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Bleach can be very bad for your skin, can easily weaken the skin and allow for infections, and can even enable the urushiol to move into your blood stream. Bleach is a terrible idea. I would suppose that fingernail polish is also bad for skin. Fingernail polish would also prevent the skin from staying dry and open to the air, and would prevent other soothing lotions from being applied, especially considering how difficult it would be to remove nail polish from the skin.173.75.251.214 (talk) 04:34, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Some suggestions from my own experience

I've been dealing with this stuff down here in Texas, and I figured I'd share some of my own experiences in treating it, which are unencyclopedic but which I can say have worked for me and might have some bearing on revisions of this article.

(1) Scrub each major patch with Zanfel as soon as possible; the single most important thing is disociating the urushiol from your skin ASAP, and Zanfel is basically a $40/tube nuclear bomb for urushiol. Don't be surprised if Zanfel works only partially if more than 12-24 hours has passed, it's outstanding stuff but not a cure.

(2) Antihistamines are essential; I found Benadryl worked ok but made me too groggy, but Claritin (loratadine) seems to work equally well without the side effects. I skipped antihistimines one day and the itching definitely went up. Conversely, I've found the itching goes down dramatically about 30 minutes after taking Claritin.

(3) Wash anything that had initial contact with your hands the day you were exposed; this includes steering wheels, tools, clothes, etc, or you will set yourself up for reinfection.

(4) Avoid warm water. I guess maybe it works for some people but I've found keeping the parts cool and dry (except maybe for moisturizer to control skin erosion) will control the itch.

(5) Use Tecnu gel for any minor annoying areas, as it has topical antihistimine. I'm about to try some corticosteroids (topical triamcinolone) and will report on that if I can.

Repeated Exposure

Under Mechanism is "Since the skin reaction is an allergic one, people may develop an increasingly strong reactions after repeated exposures, or show no immune response on their first exposure, but show sensitivity on following exposures."

On page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxicodendron_diversilobum under Toxin, "Around 15%[1] to 30%[2] of people have no allergic response, but most if not all will become sensitized over time with repeated or more concentrated exposure to urushio."

This seems inconsistent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.110.42.174 (talk) 03:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC) Of course if you have a big problem, don't take my advice; go see a doctor. -Rolypolyman (talk) 22:58, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

There doesn't seem to be any contradiction. More exposures leads to more sensitivity for both sentences you quote. 173.75.251.214 (talk) 04:39, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Treatment

Some of the treatment sections reads too much like an ad to me. Also looks like it could use some sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevink707 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

There appears to be an edit war regarding the inclusion of a product called ItchyFree. I have removed the entire list (4 products in all), for two reasons: the article does not cite a reliable source about any of these products, and it is specific to the United States while Wikipedia is aimed at a worldwide readership. If these products merit inclusion in this article, then we need to cite a reliable source about their mechanism, efficacy, etc. (An example of "reliable source," in this case, might be a Consumer Reports study, as opposed to the manufacturer's website or promotional literatue). Thank you. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:32, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

urushiol vaccine

> No vaccine has been developed to counter urushiol symptoms

Hey! Urushiol is neither a bacteria nor a virus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.53.16.148 (talk) 00:45, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

"Future research currently underway may lead to a vaccine that blocks the specific urushiol T-cell receptor and immunizes "high risk" people against urushiol for periods of time (Stampf et al, 1990). In fact, Allergene, a biotech company in San Mateo, California has successfully produced a hybridoma (fused lymphocyte and carcinoma cell) that makes urushiol-binding monoclonal antibodies. These antibodies prevented sensitized mice from reacting with urushiol and may eventually be available in a serum for people."^{Herbalgram (American Botanical Council) Volume 34: 36-42, 1995 by W.P. Armstrong and W.L. Epstein, M.D. cited in waynesword.palomar.edu/ww0802.htm} -69.87.199.228 (talk) 01:45, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Contradiction

One section said that burning poison oak may not cause symptoms, while another section says it definitely does "these statements are TRUE". What gives? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.233.38.65 (talk) 04:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Exposing yourself to the smoke is a very deadly experiment to try. You might get lucky. Or you might be promptly on your way to the hospital. Just imagine the lining of your lungs reacting to direct contact...-69.87.200.106 (talk) 22:02, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Hot Water

I've used hot water many times. I've read that it uses up all of the histamine in your skin. Works for me.

--64.179.113.48 (talk) 17:26, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't think the "uses up all the histamine in your skin" is correct at all. For some people, hot water does provide temporary relief from itching and pain. For others, it does the opposite. If you do use hot water, make sure it is not too hot, as you do not want to break the blisters and cause an infection. 173.75.251.214 (talk) 04:42, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Hot water does work, however it goes like this, you boil hot water in a pan with salt. You wait til the water is hot enough for your hands to dip into. Then you get ice cold water ready with dishwashing liquid or a strong soap, because what the hot water does is rapid the new skin to grow. It will also puss out the remaining liquid from the rash and clean it (ivy mutates skin cells temp, that's why it takes so long for it to grow back, this 2 week cure, can be 2-3 days or instantaneous if done correctly). When the ivy ages, feel free to scratch your skin to help it regrow faster. Will cure those pulsating finger tips or toes for ya. If on other parts of your skin, you will need a rag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.255.25.193 (talk) 02:23, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

animals

What animals other than humans do or don't have this vulnerability? It is said that there are two kinds of goats that especially love to eat up poison ivy!-69.87.200.106 (talk) 22:06, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

no evidence of racial immunity

"According to Albert M. Kligman's classic paper on poison oak (1958), there is no evidence of racial immunity to poison oak urushiol, not even among full-blooded Indians; however, black skin is slightly less susceptible. Native Americans were much more "in tune" with nature and probably learned to recognize, respect and avoid the plant at an early age. There is some evidence suggesting that native-born Hawaiians and Asians may be less susceptible to poison oak possibly due to early exposure to mangoes and Japanese lacquer (Epstein and Claiborne, 1957). Eskimos also are thought to be relatively immune, but the genetics of poison oak/ivy susceptibility are very poorly understood on a population basis. On an individual basis, children of very sensitive parents are highly likely to become poison oak sufferers (Walker et al., 1989)."^{Herbalgram (American Botanical Council) Volume 34: 36-42, 1995 by W.P. Armstrong and W.L. Epstein, M.D. cited in waynesword.palomar.edu/ww0802.htm} -69.87.199.228 (talk) 01:47, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

potential positive uses?

"In addition to using poison oak lacquer as a black dye, Pomo Indians reportedly used it to cure warts (Saunders, 1933). The wart was incised and then fresh resin was applied to the incision. Fresh resin was also used as a cure for ringworm and was applied to rattlesnake bites."^{Herbalgram (American Botanical Council) Volume 34: 36-42, 1995 by W.P. Armstrong and W.L. Epstein, M.D. cited in waynesword.palomar.edu/ww0802.htm} -69.87.199.228 (talk) 01:50, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

evolutionary significance

"The evolutionary significance of poison oak resin containing urushiol is difficult to explain. The resinous sap probably helps to seal wounds and may retard the growth of infectious fungal and bacterial spores. A chemical defense strategy against "predatory pressure" seems unlikely since the foliage and fruits are eaten by deer, goats, horses, cattle and a variety of birds. In fact, wood rats even use the branches to construct their nests. Only humans appear to have painful encounters with the plant, although laboratory studies indicate sensitivity on exposed skin of guinea pigs, rabbits, mice, sheep, dogs and rhesus monkeys.

In the case of humans, our well-developed immune system may be overreacting to a relatively innocuous plant resin on the skin. But there is a positive side to all of this--research on poison oak may lead to a better understanding of the human immune system and the treatment of renegade viruses and tumor cells. In the final analysis, poison oak may be a blessing in disguise."^{Herbalgram (American Botanical Council) Volume 34: 36-42, 1995 by W.P. Armstrong and W.L. Epstein, M.D. cited in waynesword.palomar.edu/ww0802.htm} -69.87.199.228 (talk) 01:53, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Zanfel

Zanfel is very expensive; $40 for 1-oz tube (2008). CVS sells a much cheaper knock-off version, $15 for 1.5-oz.

'There is also interest in a proprietary product known as Zanfel Poison Ivy Wash. The company Web site states that this product is unique, being the only one able to remove urushiol from the skin "after bonding," through the formation of "an aggregated cluster."18 The Web site also claims the product relieves pain and itching, usually within 30 seconds. A thorough search of the manufacturer's Web site yields locations to buy the product, furnishes glowing testimonials from satisfied users, and answers several questions about it, but the ingredients contained in the product do not appear on any Web page. Knowledge of the ingredients is critical in ascertaining their efficacy and safety. A Web site selling the product lists them as polyethylene granules, sodium lauroyl sarcosinate, nonoxynol 9, C12-15 Pareth-9, disodium EDTA, quaternium 15, carbomer 2%, triethanolamine, and water.19 None of these ingredients is FDA approved to remove urushiols, and none possesses any proven local anesthetic effect that would relieve itching and pain. Since the product does not yet meet the standards of evidence-based medicine, it is unproven and should not be recommended.'

Source: 4/17/2007; Poison Ivy: The Classic Contact Dermatitis; W. Steven Pray, PhD, DPh[1]

-69.87.204.78 (talk) 21:00, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I've had urushiol-induced contact dermatitis (or as most people simply call it, "poison ivy") many times, and I've tried just about everything there is to treat/cure it. Zanfel is extremely effective. It removes urushiol with some kind of proprietary formula that binds to the urushiol and renders it water soluble. It completely stops itching and seems to speed up healing. It's the only effective treatment for poison ivy. Unless you've got systemic urushiol poisoning (which causes outbreaks all over the body), I'd say Zanfel is more than a treatment - it's so effective that I'd almost call it a cure. I don't want to sound like I'm promoting the product... but it really is the only treatment that actually works. It's well worth the high price. As for the ingredients... I can't figure out what binds the urushiol, but I tend to believe that it does, somehow. The mechanism of action is elusive, but the product is undeniably effective.Fuzzform (talk) 02:17, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Systemic poison oak reaction

There seems to be inadequate research into the volatility of the toxin. I have had a severe systemic reaction that went on expanding for weeks when I pruned poison oak with long handled clippers. I never touched it at all and cleaned everything carefully afterward. I know other people who have had severe systemic reactions from cutting into poison oak branches or roots. I do not see any coverage of this on the authoritative sites.

Wish someone would do some work on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.21.102.101 (talk) 00:37, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Is rash localised?

It's not clear in the article whether the allergic rash reaction on the skin is limited to the area in contact with the oil, or spreads further. I'll confess I'm only asking because apparently a certain Z Efron has an all over rash per this article (oh the shame of it - mine that is, for checking out his story on WP) ‒ Jaymax✍ 07:05, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Aloe Vera as an anti-itch

I've had some notable anti-itch success using raw Aloe Vera juice/pulp (that I've got growing in my backyard). It does sting for a short time (few minutes) after the Aloe Vera is applied to the affected area, but after that, no itch for a number of hours (well over 4 hours of anti-itch relief). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.140.4.71 (talk) 02:18, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

References

Reference 11 does not lead to a document titled as cited, but to the results of an Ovid search (https://ovidsp.tx.ovid.com/sp-3.8.1a/ovidweb.cgi?QS2=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), none of which corresponds to the cited title. Verteuil (talk) 21:14, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Use in the film Prince and Me 2

In this film, "The Prince & Me 2: The Royal Wedding" 129.180.139.17 (talk) 02:44, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

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Cure for Urushiol-induced contact dermatitis

There is now an over the counter product called Zanfel that will CURE dermatitis caused by urushiol. When used as directed, it draws the oil out of the skin and absorbs it, short-circuiting the reaction. I have used it myself and recommended it to several other people, and everyone has reported the same thing that I experienced. The itching stops almost immediately after applying the product, and the lesions dry up and start healing within 12 - 24 hours after applying the product. I think it would be informative and helpful to the public if someone could include this information on the page. Here is a link to the product: http://www.zanfel.com/help.

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