Talk:V357 Carinae

Requested move 16 June 2014

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. Jenks24 (talk) 04:22, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

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V357 Carinae → A Carinae – As seen in a SIMBAD search, the Bayer designation "a Carinae" is used more often to refer to this star than the variable designation "V357 Carinae". The same thing is seen in Google Scholar results for both searches. Note that the star "A Carinae" is pretty much never referred to by its Bayer designation, so a simple hatnote atop the new title of this page would suffice to solve that problem. --Relisted. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 11:00, 1 July 2014 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 10:47, 24 June 2014 (UTC) StringTheory11 (t • c) 23:06, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

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• Comment you need to move the set index to implement this move, and it contains edit history that was merged away as well. -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 05:23, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose "α Carinae" (Canopus) is sometimes misspelled as "A Carinae" and "a Carinae". So the set index should remain the primary landing point. Further, this avoids confusion. IIRC either at WT:AST or WT:ASTRO it was determined that Latin-letter Bayer designations should be avoided due to the confusion introduced through them with the lower and upper case forms which on Wikipedia cannot be separated (unlike Wiktionary, Wikipedia does not allow separate lower case and upper case initial letters) and that several people make erroneous assignments of Latin letters to the Greek lettered Bayer designations as well. -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 05:23, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
  • However, WP's global policy WP:COMMONNAME trumps our local guideline of WP:NCASTRO. Therefore, per the WP:COMMONNAME policy that article should be at their most common names, this article should be moved to "a Carinae", as it is in more common use than "V357 Carinae" (which gets zero search results on Google Scholar btw). The issue of there being a star named "A Carinae" (which is not commonly referred to by that designation) and the fact that Canopus can be misreferred to as "a Carinae" can be solved with a hatnote. StringTheory11 (t • c) 17:57, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

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