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Edit warring

Latest comment: 4 years ago6 comments3 people in discussion

Hi @Jraymond425! and @Praxidicae!,

You two appear to be edit warring. If you’re not aware what this is:

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Please try to discuss the issue calmly here (talk page) and reach a resolution on it rather than edit warring, as this is very disruptive and will not achieve anything useful. Cheers! Yellowleaf23 (talk) 18:31, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Yellowleaf23 Please read WP:BLP. Praxidicae (talk) 18:34, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

I’m aware of that. However as it says above, this doesn’t mean you’re not being disruptive. I’m not aware of what’s going on, but if Jraymond is causing issues, I suggest you report that elsewhere rather than doing this. Yellowleaf23 (talk) 18:36, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

I suggest a 24 hour old account not lecture other users about policies when they don't even know what they say. Praxidicae (talk) 18:38, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Yellowleaf23 I suggest taking a look at WP:3RRNO, specifically number 7. Removal of unsourced BLP content is exempt from the edit warring policy. -- LuK3 (Talk) 18:42, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Apologies, I did notice that - this does still apply to Jraymond, although he appears to have been blocked now. Cheers for the help folks. Yellowleaf23 (talk) 18:43, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Reliable sources for Wikipedia article

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I would like to help improve this article, so let me just pop out some Wikipedia format for sources that talk about Val Whiting and her career.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5] Wikipedia requires us to cite reliable sources for any changes, especially for changes to the biography of a living person. I know little about basketball, so I hope people who know more will also help improve this article. HouseOfChange (talk) 00:03, 7 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

References

^ Johnson, Derek (July 24, 2018). "Bullied as a child, former pro helps girls gain self-esteem through basketball". The Woodinville Weekly. Retrieved August 6, 2020. Some of the best days were the journey,' she said. 'Working hard every day at practice with my teammates. Being so exhausted we couldn't walk. But knowing that we were sowing the seeds for what we'd see down the road as success. That's what I try to pass along to the kids.'
^ Jackson, Melanie (January 9, 2006). "Top 25 players of past 25 years". ESPN. Retrieved August 4, 2020. After a rookie season that included Pac-10 and national freshman of the year accolades, as well as Stanford's first national championship, how could Whiting get any better? Two years later, as a junior, she guided the Cardinal to the 1992 NCAA title. Along the way, Whiting twice earned Kodak All-American honors, led Stanford to four consecutive Pac-10 championships and a 114-16 mark (.877 winning percentage). Whiting wrapped up her career as Stanford's all-time leading scorer (her 2,077 points now rank second overall) and rebounder (her 1,134 career boards now rank second), and still holds career marks in blocked shots and free throws. In 16 career NCAA Tournament games (which included three trips to the Final Four), Whiting averaged a double-double of 15.6 points and 10.1 rebounds.
^ Bunin, Steve (July 24, 2020). "Former hoops star working with TikTok after being targeted by racist posts". King5 Seattle. Retrieved August 4, 2020. Val Whiting is a former basketball star who's a two-time All-American and NCAA champion at Stanford, an alternate on the 1996 USA Olympic Team, and a longtime professional player, including one stint in Seattle. Whiting's TikTok has more than 500,000 views, but many of the replies were sexist or racist
^ Proctor, Kate Parsons (July 28, 2018). "Empowering young girls through basketball". Redmond Reporter. Retrieved August 4, 2020. Whiting graduated from Stanford with a degree in biology and was admitted to several medical schools, however, she chose to pursue her love of basketball. She played for the WNBA from 1996-2002, playing for the Detroit Shocks and Seattle Reign. She was an alternate on the US Women's National Team that won the 1996 gold medal at the Summer Olympics in Atlanta, Georgia. In 2006, Whiting was named by ESPN Magazine as one of the Top 25 women's basketball players in the history of the NCAA. Whiting currently serves on the National Advisory Board for Positive Coaching Alliance.
^ Eymer, Rick (October 18, 1996). "Whiting courts health, success in new league". Palo Alto Online. Retrieved August 6, 2020. She finished her pre-med degree at Stanford following her playing career (1990-93) there, where she remains the leading scorer (2,077 points) and rebounder (1,134) in school history. She also played on two national championship teams, and was an alternate for the 1995-96 U.S. National Team, which went on to win the Olympic gold medal in Atlanta. Whiting went through the process to begin medical school in 1994, and was accepted to UC San Francisco.

Articles for Val Whiting's Stanford teammates

Latest comment: 4 years ago10 comments2 people in discussion

Three existing articles provide some potential role models here: Jennifer Azzi, Molly Goodenbour and Kate Starbird. HouseOfChange (talk) 17:14, 7 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi, it's Val Whiting. I was asked to place info here. I like how Lisa Leslie's page is formatted. I am trying to find sources for my high school career. Basketball-reference has my WNBA stats but not my ABL stats. I found this stat site a few weeks ago (it has both leagues):https://www.justsportsstats.com/wombasketballstatsindex.php?player_id=whitiva01w I just stumbled upon a WNBA archive: https://www.wnba.com/archive/wnba/shock/history/val_whiting.html It actually has ABL stats but not averages. The ABL was a league that had great players and when the league folded we all went over to the WNBA in 1999.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-jul-13-sp-55619-story.html ABL info *https://products.kitsapsun.com/archive/1998/02-21/0007_women_s_basketball__smiling_throu.html ABL Info: *https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-xpm-1997-10-10-9710100413-story.html
98-99 season stats 4th in the league in rebounding with 8.5 per game http://www.finchhaven.com/pages/sea_reign/abl/playerstats.htm
ABL All-Star https://www.swxrightnow.com/stories/1996/dec/08/stanford-vs-tennessee-now-and-forever/
US Olympic Festival https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1990/07/08/us-olympic-festival/188bd2b4-890c-4b98-aff7-5cbd9669c78d/
R William Jone CUp Team https://www.usab.com/history/additional-usa-basketball-history/r-williams-jones-cup-team/usa-womens-r-william-jones-cup-team-all-time-alphabetical-roster.aspx I can't remember if you said being interviewed on a podcast is a reputable source. Thanks for all you do I also reached out to the Emmy people about their archives. But I agree with you, delete it off the page. --Vwhiting (talk) 01:01, 8 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi Vwhiting, thanks for your input and those helpful links. I agree that Lisa Leslie has a lively and attractive bio. Can you document what year or episode you were a coach for MTV Made? With that information, we can look for a reliable source to include it in the bio. Similarly, it would be good if you can find a news story or even a press release about your sports color coverage TV work, because to say anything about it we need a "reliable source." I put some asterisks into your comments because, as you may have noticed, Wikipedia puts spaces where you put line breaks (unless you put 2 line breaks in a row.) But asterisks also start a new line without all that extra white space. HouseOfChange (talk) 01:36, 8 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

thanks for all your hard work. Here is the link confirming I was an MTV Made Coach http://www.mtv.com/episodes/u1qypo/made-super-made-moto-x-season-8-ep-7 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vwhiting (talk • contribs) 20:16, 8 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, Val, and I'm not finished yet. That link is helpful. If someone can take a good photo of you and is willing to give it one of the CC permission licenses Wikipedia accepts here is the page to upload an image. HouseOfChange (talk) 23:08, 8 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi HouseOfChange Here is a link for my WNBA COmmunity Assist Award https://www.wnba.com/archive/wnba/sol/community/riley_WNBA_Community_Assist.html

I found an error. I was not All-ABL.

I found a link that talks about my stats and accomplishments in high School https://books.google.com/books?id=EV557kOFNlcC&pg=PA194&lpg=PA194&dq=val+whiting+high+school+stats+30+points+ursuline&source=bl&ots=XwoKbwuS7x&sig=ACfU3U029SeFd8y9mONjXr6c0Prq5EUJZA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwin6oHc_47rAhX-CTQIHWMmDtE4ChDoATADegQIChAB#v=onepage&q=val%20whiting%20high%20school%20stats%2030%20points%20ursuline&f=false Vwhiting (talk) 21:04, 9 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Thanks Vwhiting, working to improve it, as you can see. HouseOfChange (talk) 23:27, 9 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi HouseOfChange I tried to upload a photo but was afraid it was gonna publish on the page and mess things up. Here's the link to it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/78p50lohikjs018/Val%20full.jpg?dl=0 Vwhiting (talk) 19:01, 10 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Vwhiting Uploading a photo to Wikimedia will not do anything to your article. Only a person who holds the rights to the photo should upload it, because part of the process is asserting your right to upload it. Sorry I can't help you upload it, but the process is easy, step by step, and if you make a mistake or get worried you can stop part way through and try again later. HouseOfChange (talk) 03:56, 12 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi HouseOfChange sorry I've been busy. I wanted to give you an archived wnba site with some bio info regarding my time with Detroit. Its in the second paragraph. https://www.wnba.com/archive/wnba/shock/history/val_whiting.html Vwhiting (talk) 22:40, 1 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

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[Woodinville2018-1] Johnson, Derek (July 24, 2018). "Bullied as a child, former pro helps girls gain self-esteem through basketball". The Woodinville Weekly. Retrieved August 6, 2020. Some of the best days were the journey,' she said. 'Working hard every day at practice with my teammates. Being so exhausted we couldn't walk. But knowing that we were sowing the seeds for what we'd see down the road as success. That's what I try to pass along to the kids.'

[ESPN-2] Jackson, Melanie (January 9, 2006). "Top 25 players of past 25 years". ESPN. Retrieved August 4, 2020. After a rookie season that included Pac-10 and national freshman of the year accolades, as well as Stanford's first national championship, how could Whiting get any better? Two years later, as a junior, she guided the Cardinal to the 1992 NCAA title. Along the way, Whiting twice earned Kodak All-American honors, led Stanford to four consecutive Pac-10 championships and a 114-16 mark (.877 winning percentage). Whiting wrapped up her career as Stanford's all-time leading scorer (her 2,077 points now rank second overall) and rebounder (her 1,134 career boards now rank second), and still holds career marks in blocked shots and free throws. In 16 career NCAA Tournament games (which included three trips to the Final Four), Whiting averaged a double-double of 15.6 points and 10.1 rebounds.

[TikTok-3] Bunin, Steve (July 24, 2020). "Former hoops star working with TikTok after being targeted by racist posts". King5 Seattle. Retrieved August 4, 2020. Val Whiting is a former basketball star who's a two-time All-American and NCAA champion at Stanford, an alternate on the 1996 USA Olympic Team, and a longtime professional player, including one stint in Seattle. Whiting's TikTok has more than 500,000 views, but many of the replies were sexist or racist

[Empower2018-4] Proctor, Kate Parsons (July 28, 2018). "Empowering young girls through basketball". Redmond Reporter. Retrieved August 4, 2020. Whiting graduated from Stanford with a degree in biology and was admitted to several medical schools, however, she chose to pursue her love of basketball. She played for the WNBA from 1996-2002, playing for the Detroit Shocks and Seattle Reign. She was an alternate on the US Women's National Team that won the 1996 gold medal at the Summer Olympics in Atlanta, Georgia. In 2006, Whiting was named by ESPN Magazine as one of the Top 25 women's basketball players in the history of the NCAA. Whiting currently serves on the National Advisory Board for Positive Coaching Alliance.

[1996NewLeague-5] Eymer, Rick (October 18, 1996). "Whiting courts health, success in new league". Palo Alto Online. Retrieved August 6, 2020. She finished her pre-med degree at Stanford following her playing career (1990-93) there, where she remains the leading scorer (2,077 points) and rebounder (1,134) in school history. She also played on two national championship teams, and was an alternate for the 1995-96 U.S. National Team, which went on to win the Olympic gold medal in Atlanta. Whiting went through the process to begin medical school in 1994, and was accepted to UC San Francisco.

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