Talk:Valerii Zaluzhnyi

USSR allegiance?

I'm not an expert on the subject, but it seems like he started his military career after 1991. And the article says he "did not serve in the USSR". He was born in USSR, but did he have USSR allegiance? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.73.57.241 (talk) 14:52, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

If he joined the armed forces before 25 December 1991,then the answer is yes. A source confirming this would be good. Essex History (talk) 20:25, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

The article is wrong, according to the Ukrainian government website, Zaluzhnyi entered the military in 1997. Essex History (talk) 20:27, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

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swastika-armband

@Schläger4:, concerning your following edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Valerii_Zaluzhnyi&type=revision&diff=1115092226&oldid=1115092063 and also the edit war initiated by an anonymous.
Swastika can be seen on the original zoomed photo on Twitter: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeZ69HAWIAEe_uR?format=jpg&name=large originating from Zaluzhnyi's tweet: https://twitter.com/CinC_AFU/status/1578083916296192000/photo/1 and a citation in accordance with WP:RS is also provided eugrus (talk) 19:54, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry for the oversight.

I reverted my edit after checking the source.Schläger4 (talk) 19:56, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

I've removed the edit. I doubt that a website that has an entire section dedicated to the Great Reset conspiracy theory ([1]) is reliable for such a sensitive claim. Kleinpecan (talk) 20:20, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

A close-up of the bracelet was recently posted to Nitter.

This bracelet can be found on a Ukrainian site named Pakabone. FreeFallingCement (talk) 20:25, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Agree that the deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de source is thin and not sufficient by itself for such an assertion. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 23:40, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Those are Viking symbols. What is the fuss about? 2601:647:5800:3B60:293A:FA92:47D0:1319 (talk) 21:26, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Yes, such a symbol. A fact check by the Deutsche Presse-Agentur says that it is probably a Solomon's knot.[2] (German). KurtR (talk) 23:10, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

And now another one, this time photo with Nazi Ukraine hero Stepan Bandera for his birthday celebration retweeted (and later removed) by Ukraine's parliament

https://twitter.com/Dispropoganda/status/1610003321288548352 Joaziela (talk) 11:14, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

@TimothyBlue what is non-encyclopedic and POV in:

“On January 1, 2023 took a selfie with a portrait of Nazi Ukraine hero Stepan Bandera celebrated the 114th anniversary of the birth of ultra-nationalist and antisemite whose followers engaged in a campaign of ethnic cleansing against Jews and Poles during World War II as Volhynia genocide “

You have some other view in Bandera, even Hero of Ukraine#Controversial awards was revoked, so that he is antisemitism, antipolonism and responsible for Volhynia genocide is worth to mentioning Joaziela (talk) 11:58, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

@Joaziela The information you are trying to enter is WP:UNDUE for general bio article. You can try to create a new article about the incident if you want but please read WP:BLP first - GizzyCatBella🍁 14:49, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Bandera and Verkhovna Rada

User @TimothyBlueis not even taking part in discussion, but deleted once again information about sad story about Zaluzhny and Bandera saying it’s poorly sourced, it’s Verkhovna Rada a poor source? It’s just censorship. I also put 3 articles from three different countries, those websites easily could be 20 more... i know that Commander-in-Chief first with swastika-like, now with Bandera it’s not a good image, but Wikipedia it’s not a propaganda place for censorship, erased stories that don’t fit to narrative. Facts are the is photo with Bandera, promoted by parliament, that been international scandal mostly in Poland and Islael, because Bandera is a part of Volhynia genocide of Poles and Jews.

“On January 1, 2023 posted a selfie with a portrait of Nazi Ukraine hero Stepan Bandera (celebrated the 114th anniversary of the birth of ultra-nationalist and antisemite whose followers engaged in a campaign of ethnic cleansing against Jews and Poles during World War II as Volhynia genocide), retweeted by Ukrainian parliament Verkhovna Rada account, deleted after strong international criticism.”

could we we please bring it back or have any not-propaganda discussion... Joaziela (talk) 17:10, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

@Joaziela - The issue is over the top POV tone but I also think it’s WP:UNDUE for general BLP Bio article. - GizzyCatBella🍁 17:32, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

@GizzyCatBella maybe you don’t see it from Jewish and Polish perspective (200 000 brutally murdered in Volhynia massacre) so analogy for Germany: “Federal Ministry of Defence (Germany) publish selfie with Hitler portrait, this been retweeted by Bundestag account” isn’t the huge af scandal, so yeah I know that for @TimothyBlue it’s might be not comfortable, but let’s be neutral no propaganda and historical negationism, bring back the truth Joaziela (talk) 18:09, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

@Joaziela - Bandera is not Hitler (not even close) and I already answered here - GizzyCatBella🍁 18:20, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

The you answered that it’s not a big deal because quickly removed, and I’m saying you it stay for a long time, long enough to be put on official account of parliament, and it’s scandal enough that he took selfie with genocide criminal, because yes, as well Bandera as Hitler was on top of criminal organizations: Bandera- OUN and Hitler- Nazi Party responsible for genocide of Jews and Poles Volhynia massacre. If you don’t think so and you are going to say that Bandera have nothing to do with war crimes and genocide, we have a huge problem here like genocide denial and historical negationism, if not very please explain why you mean by “not even close”? Joaziela (talk) 18:43, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm pretty good at seeing things for the perspective of a Polish Jew. Your personal attacks are very close to going to ANI.  // Timothy :: talk  18:22, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

@TimothyBlue there’s any personal attack on you at all (which part you read like it?). Please take a part in discussion, to maybe form it different way if you think this one it’s not okay, so far you only deleted without saying a word, so bring your perspective please. I presented Germany analogy, because Bandera is a genocide criminal and as I write it’s outrageous to even selfie not even saying that it’s go to Verkhovna Rada profile Joaziela (talk) 18:54, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

• This edit [3] and whole story are definitely "undue" on this page. Two first sources used in the edit are hardly RS. Third one is definitely an RS, but it is written on a different subject of Bandera and Verkhovna Rada (the title of this thread), although it does mention Zaluzhnyi in passing. My very best wishes (talk) 19:11, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

  Very RS national news agency Polish Press Agency https://www.pap.pl/en/news/news%2C1516667%2Cpolish-mfa-unhappy-about-ukrainian-nationalist-leaders-commemoration.html and Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Poland) that express his discontent, is the source and Polish officials enough,

  https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/pm-against-glorification-of-ukrainian-nationalist-bandera-35525

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/poland-pm-to-remind-ukraine-that-glorifying-bandera-unaccept First News and even Al Mayadeen about not so happy Prime Minister of Poland

• https://www.prezydent.pl/kancelaria/archiwum/archiwum-bronislawa-komorowskiego/aktualnosci/wydarzenia/z-konsternacja-przyjelismy-uhonorowanie-bandery,13602,archive President of Poland on his official site

  next to previous one from Deputy Marshal of the Sejm Wicemarszałek Sejmu? Is that scandalous enough? Is it really about sources? Because those sources looks pretty solid and also why you don’t accept Ukrainian parliament as an RS? That come straight from them, so could we put this news on Joaziela (talk) 21:59, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

  I propose a new version: “On January 1, 2023 Ukrainian parliament Verkhovna Rada Twitter account published a Zaluzhnyi selfie with a portrait of Nazi Ukraine Stepan Bandera with his books quotes (celebrated the 114th anniversary of the birth of ultra-nationalist and antisemite whose followers engaged in a campaign of ethnic cleansing against Jews and Poles during World War II as Volhynia genocide), deleted after strong international criticism, especially from Poland: President, Prime Minister, Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Deputy Marshal of the Sejm“, (ofc with all sources) better, any other ideas? Joaziela (talk) 22:15, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

• I see two serious problems here. First, a significant number of Ukrainians have a positive opinion of Bandera. Should we place "and he likes Bandera" on every BLP page? Secondly, we do not even know what Zaluzhnyi thinks about Bandera because ... he did not tell. Simply making such photo can mean anything, a joke, a prank, whatever, just to make Putin angry. My very best wishes (talk) 01:41, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

  Please no reductio ad absurdum, first not every BLP, only to those whose actions bring significant criticism from all officials from other country. This is why I bring “German analogy”, to understand it better, because it was post from official parliament of one country and it’s commander-in-chief. Please also not again with absurd “it is joke, prank” (as before @GizzyCatBella “quickly removed”). Genocide it’s not to joke about. Bandera had Volhynia genocide, as Hitler had Holocaust. Maybe some one could write “not even close” again, but it’s not competition how is “greatest genocider by numbers”! Some will say that Hitler is also not even close by numbers to Mao Zedong- but genocide is genocide, not a competition.

  And of course the are maybe some numbers of people who have positive opinion on Hiter as well, David Irving belief even that Adolf knew nothing of the Holocaust. But common sense and international consensus is that Hitler knew about Holocaust and Bandera is involved in killing Jews and Poles at Volhynia (no matter what some Ukrainians think [again “some”, I don’t think significant as you write, this is main Russian narrative for “denazification of Ukraine” claim])

  So again: official statement from state authority of one country (to understand it seriousness use “German analogy” because genocide is not a competition), bring action from official statement from state authority of another country. Joaziela (talk) 12:16, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

This selfie got very little coverage, and when it mentioned (like here), the sources say it was Rada who published this selfie. This incident is so minor it does not belong anywhere, but if it does, it would be page about Bandera or Rada, exactly as you noted yourself in the title of this thread, i.e. "Bandera and Verkhovna Rada". Could you answer to my WP:ANI question [4] please? My very best wishes (talk) 17:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Like I said: "this incident is so minor it does not belong anywhere". If you think it belongs to any other page, please start discussion on talk of that other page and get WP:Consensus for inclusion.My very best wishes (talk) 19:27, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

This is not minor incident, joke or quickly removed! AGAIN Berlin analogy: “Official Bundestag Twitter post a Mein Kampf quotes with photo of Federal Ministry of Defence (Germany) posing with Adolf Hitler portrait, with strong reaction of Israel state authorities” the same happened to Ukraine and Poland.

Taking this selfie by such a person is scandal enough, but posting it by parliament just unbelievable villainy. This is HUGE scandal, and it would be on German Federal Minister page, so it should be on Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief. Joaziela (talk) 10:31, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

@Joaziela please, enough. You keep repeating identical arguments on multiple pages. Look, there is no support for your desired changes. I understand that you still have to learn Wikipedia's standards of contribution and conduct, but this is too much. Your behaviour becomes disturbing, please, focus on a different subject. - GizzyCatBella🍁 11:41, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

@GizzyCatBella there are multiple pages, because @TimothyBlue and you are creating them and try to roast me on BLP and ANI, participate in discussion here. Here you try to call it as a minor incident or even joke, which is obvious WP:NOTCENSORED Joaziela (talk) 12:36, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Once again, you say "Official Bundestag Twitter...". Hence, it would be about Bundestag and belong to page Bundestag assuming that the inclusion would be supported by WP:Consensus on talk page of article Bundestag. My very best wishes (talk) 18:51, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

On Verkhovna Rada you silenced it and saying it is „selfie of Zaluzhnyi” [5], here you say it belong there... so what to call it as one big CENSORSHIP???

If Christine Lambrecht, Federal Minister of Defence did it, it would be even on Germany page and even create separate page for this antisemitic, hate speech hate crime, but here follow Ukraine propaganda (as bad as Russian propaganda, it’s encyclopedia should be no propaganda) and try to call it minor incident, quickly removed joke. Just trying to silence it!

You have group of people who edit in proukrainian POV, roasting me personally creating threads on BLP and ANI, not discuss on topic here. Sources are very strong, there was a strong reaction from other country on action from two state authorities WP:NOTCENSORED again Joaziela (talk) 09:28, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

No one is censoring anything. You need to follow WP:Consensus for including contentious materials, such as these, and especially on WP:BLP pages.My very best wishes (talk) 20:14, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

@Joaziela’s arguments are obvious POV pushing, with demonizing language and easily verifiable disinformation. “Nazi Ukraine”?! “Genocidal criminal,” which they bludgeon us with repeatedly, is false: Bandera was recalled to Berlin and arrested two weeks into Barbarossa in July 1941, released in 1944, fleeing to Austria never to return to Ukraine or Poland, while the Volhynia massacres were conducted 1943 to 1945. “Antisemitic, hate speech hate crime,” if it refers to the article’s subject, is libellous and can’t be put into the article.

This article is subject to WP:ACDS and WP:GS/RUSUKR, and this kind of speech should not be humoured as acceptable here, or indeed in any discussion. —Michael Z. 23:35, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

(And the irony of them decrying “propaganda and historical negationism” at the same time.)  —Michael Z. 23:39, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

@Mzajac This “arrests” was two room comfortable apartment (as for a Nazi collaborator)... you are very close to David Irving (claims there is no evidence of Hitler knowing of the Holocaust)... you don’t need to use weapon yourself to be responsible and still should be called genocide criminal...

Glorifying of Bandera really don’t help Ukraine, good that Hero of Ukraine award was annulled, but this kind of propaganda as you presented is very sad and show that proNazi Ukraine is unfortunately still strong

@My very best wishes No censorship? so why it was put down also at Verkhovna Rada and even Stepan Bandera? Joaziela (talk) 15:53, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

@Joaziela, please take a breath, delete or strike your comment, and apologize for implying that I’m a Nazi propagandist. —Michael Z. 16:41, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, and once they do what you rightly asking them to do, perhaps you Mzajac will do the same here? That would be great. Thanks - GizzyCatBella🍁 16:54, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Why, because you’ll advertise in discussions far and wide? Editors can follow your link and see that you unapologetically support Joaziela’s anti-Ukrainian disinformation there. They’re likely to find that you’re being disruptive on top of extremely inappropriate.  —Michael Z. 17:10, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

References

Unconfirmed reports

On 10th May there have been several, as yet, unconfirmed or verified reports that General Zaluzhnyi has been KIA.

Monitor official sources on this. Essex History (talk) 20:22, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

the guy is dead 185.188.190.137 (talk) 18:36, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

not yet, Ivan. 2601:647:5800:9120:FC10:37B9:E330:BF6E (talk) 05:04, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Not every conveyor of information you don't like is Russian, troll.122.150.92.52 (talk) 11:31, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Im Slovak with obsesion in reading about current military operations and watching them unfold.

He is missing for 10 days now. The guy is 99% dead. 185.188.190.137 (talk) 18:12, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

He was the 1%. 2A02:8071:5BD0:D4C0:0:0:0:7BA0 (talk) 23:07, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Ukraine’s Deputy Defence Minister, Hanna Maliar, says Russian claims of Zaluzhnyi's death are misinformation: https://news.yahoo.com/russia-spreads-false-claims-disappearance-185342725.html AncientWalrus (talk) 14:00, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Here is a summary from RS Le Monde (French) AncientWalrus (talk) 14:02, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Further denial of injury from Ukr gov't https://news.yahoo.com/national-security-council-secretary-reacts-134746898.html AncientWalrus (talk) 21:09, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

It is interesting that you consider Ukrainska Pravda to be a credible source. But only time will tell. Carptrash (talk) 20:48, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Credible with regards to UKR government statements, yes. AncientWalrus (talk) 10:20, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

The video linked here [6] may be relevant, as may be this photo [7]. In the video, a person looking very much like Zaluzhnyi (i.e. having both his physique and his mannerisms) directly addresses the rumours of him having been killed, meaning the video post-dates the supposed attack. If a Russian attack on a staff meeting near Bakhmut EDIT: Posad-Pokrovs'ke did actually take place, this would explain why he kept a much lower public presence in the last 2 weeks or so (the target coordinates would not have been widespread knowledge, thus an attack would indicate RU has infiltrated the UA chain-of-command at an unexpectedly high level), as well as the delay in major-scale UA offensive operations. (The question of whether the Russian equipment is actually in a condition to permit precision strikes nonwithstanding; RU propaganda indicated it as an artillery strike, but this is not in line of what is known and can be inferred about the quality of the RU artillery and ammunition. Not even Ukraine, with Cesars/PaH2000s and top-grade guided artillery ammunition, is able to conduct such strikes on a regular basis.) 2A02:908:4B33:BD80:0:0:0:5FCF (talk) 20:18, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Some more RS discussion of the denials: The Telegraph (London), here it is unpaywalled via MSN [8]. AncientWalrus (talk) 06:38, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Transitional Sword of the Queen of Great Britain

He was awarded this? What in earth IS this? More info will help the article. 2601:647:5800:9120:FC10:37B9:E330:BF6E (talk) 05:04, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

There is no such award. I have removed this claim. 78.150.88.107 (talk) 22:10, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

And another one, Bandera again

https://kresy.pl/wydarzenia/replika-wyszywanki-stepana-bandery-dla-glownodowodzacego-ukrainskiej-armii/ again and again Bandera, new Nazi cases coming every few months — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leocadii (talk • contribs) 19:12, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Removing external video as not clear why useful

I don't see why we need 4 external links to videos at the bottom. I've therefore undone this edit. Happy to be convinced why this would be neccessary, but the edit summary doesn't mention. This is the edit I mean by User:Максим_Огородник. AncientWalrus (talk) 16:04, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Oh also this page is under WP:GS/RUSUKR where only extended confirmed users may edit (reverts are not edit warring) AncientWalrus (talk) 19:54, 22 May 2023 (UTC) User is extended confirmed so the sanction doesn't apply, I will undo my undo as I am not extended confirmed myself and hence am not allowed to undo

Pro Russian sources

are stating that Gen. Zaluzhnyi is badly wounded with a head injury and is in a more-or-less vegetative state. It will be interesting to see how this bit of propaganda plays out. Carptrash (talk) 15:56, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

and Ukrainian and Western propaganda is either silent or claims that he is doing great — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.111.119.54 (talk) 17:06, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 May 2023

Add to biography: In May 2023, Russian propaganda falsely claimed Zaluzhnyi was killed in an airstrike, Zaluzhnyi himself refuted this claim in a video released on the 25th of may, in which he thanked the Ukrainian people and proclaimed they will win. 2A02:1811:D581:0:F4E8:5FF6:84DB:E4BC (talk) 17:33, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:39, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes, a link to the video would be good. Carptrash (talk) 01:41, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

This is already being discussed higher up in section "Unconfirmed reports" where I posted links to more or less reliable sources discussing this topic. AncientWalrus (talk) 07:56, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

The more reliable referred to Le Monde @Carptrash AncientWalrus (talk) 10:21, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, and can you please drop me a line when Zaluzhnyi actually shows up? Carptrash (talk) 15:28, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Also, @AncientWalrus:, I have not used much French since high school (1968) but could not find this story in your link. Perhaps, since all the stories their are 5/22, you could mention which minute it appears in? Thanks again, Carptrash (talk) 15:41, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Here's a direct link, I was able to find it directly by Ctrl+F'ing for "Valer": [9]. The start reads as:

Les Russes disent avoir tué ou blessé Valerii Fedorovych Zaluzhnyi sur les résaux sociaux ? Qu'en est-il ? Est-ce juste de la propagande ?
Bonjour Boulip, Samedi, la vice-ministre ukrainienne de la défense, Hanna Maliar, a annoncé que « le commandant en chef [Valeri Zaloujny] est en place. Il fait son travail. Nous venons de lui parler », sur Telegram. Pour Mme Maliar, il s’agit d’une stratégie de désinformation voulue par la Russie au moment du « pic de Bakhmout » pour « démoraliser [les] troupes ».

AncientWalrus (talk) 06:29, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Non-english and off-topic/soapbox

Des références sûres authentifiées pour ces informations ? D'ailleurs, qui est Mme Maliar ? Visiblement cet article sent le propos outrancier pro-ukrainien, même si je compatis sincèrement avec le "petit" peuple ukrainien (si vous savez ce que c'est ?) pour ses souffrances mais certainement pas avec Zélensky comique troupier sorti du néant et corrompu avec ses multiples villas et ses dollars en millions ! 88.163.124.35 (talk) 07:47, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

SO what has Zaluzhnyi been doing during the recent offensive? I keep looking for his name and not finding it. Carptrash (talk) 16:13, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

This, apparently: https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1670840148982996992

The obfuscation of other personnel in the room happened before, but it's extensive here. Apparently, the Russian forces did iondeed at least try to kill high-ranking Ukrainian staff officers. Could be fake, for all we can tell (there do not seem to be any specifics that allow to pinpoint date, location etc) - but there is nothing to suggest a fake either, and it ties in with the present theme of Z (and other Ukrainian top brass) keeping a massively lowered profile for reasons going beyong normal operational secrecy. 22:20, 19 June 2023 (UTC) 2A02:908:4B33:BD80:0:0:0:5393 (talk) 22:20, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 May 2023

The following sentence in the article requires an edit: In January 2023, Zaluzhny received $1 million USD as an inheritance from an American-Ukrainian, Gregory Stepants.

Please correct "Stepants" to "Stepanets" Actura (talk) 23:54, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:29, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Add signature

To infobox

{{Infobox officeholder

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| signature = Valerii_Zaluzhnyi_signature.jpg Андрей Перцев (talk) 19:46, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Youtube channel

Valerii has a prominent youtube channel giving daily military insight on the ongoing invasion: https://www.youtube.com/@RFU

Worth adding to his bio? Eolix (talk) 11:28, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

it just uses his picture 46.112.96.144 (talk) 10:28, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 June 2024

General Zaluzhnyi is not the Ukrainian ambassador to the UK - as of June 2024, The London Diplomatic list still lists the position as 'Vacant'.

Heads of mission require the receiving State’s consent before they can be formally accredited by the sending State. While this is usually a formality, it is not unheard of that the agrément is denied.

Furthermore, the Ukrainian Government website still lists 'Vadym Prystaiko' as the Ukrainian ambassador to the UK (checked 21st June 2024).

Finally, news reports make reference to the Ukrainian president signing the decree on the 9th May 2024 but, there is no evidence of this on the website of the Ukrainian president and, still yet, General Zaluzhnyi cannot be accredited until the agrément has been received.

"On 7 March 2024, President Zelenskyy named General Valerii Zaluzhnyi as the new Ukrainian ambassador to the UK.[52] As of May 2024, he is awaiting agrément and accreditation." should be removed because, it cannot be substantiated other than in the media. The media (regardless of their jurisdiction) cannot be considered as reliable evidence.

For the above reason, "52 - James Waterhouse; Johanna Chisholm (7 March 2024). "Valerii Zaluzhnyi: Ukraine to appoint ex-army chief as UK ambassador". Reuters. Retrieved 8 March 2024." should also be removed.

Wording could be something similar to, "On Thursday, March 7, 2024, the President of Ukraine approved the candidacy of Valerii Zaluzhnyi for the position of Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of Ukraine to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine has sent a corresponding request for agrément to the British side." which was taken from the following Ukrainian government website:

https://mfa.gov.ua/en/news/komentar-pressluzhbi-mzs-shchodo-pogodzhennya-prezidentom-ukrayini-kandidaturi-posla-ukrayini-v-spoluchenomu-korolivstvi

Thank you for your attention. EDIT: apologies "who is currently serving as Ambassador of Ukraine to the United Kingdom" should also be completely removed from the opening paragraph.

Sebforbes (talk) 10:09, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

He has now presented his credentials.[10] Vox Sciurorum (talk) 15:24, 12 July 2024 (UTC)