Talk:Vampire folklore by region

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Danial Bass in topic Upior section
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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on January 19, 2008.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that in Slavic vampire folklore, vampires could take the form of butterflies?


Hungary

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The Radloff source cited is practically inaccessible, with no copies existing online, and is practically impossible to track down with the author being quoted as Vasili Vasilyevich Radlov (in worldcat)or Wilhelm Radloff in other citations (by Robert Lebling, but the original article doesn't exist any more) and by the historical context, that the guy in question was apparently german. If anyone has any copy of this i would much appreciate any access to it.

Also, this is contradicted by the Hungarian wiki page, where https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szendrey_Zsigmond s research mentions the introduction of vampires to be recent and the "Magyar Mythologia" book by Arnold Ipolyi from 1854, the author says that he doesn't know of the form or name of these creatures within the current hungarian people. https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=Ja2CYqcm7KoC&hl=en&pg=GBS.PA231

This could, however, simply mean that Radloff was simply aware of more than Ipolyi in 50 years earlier. N0B0DY-1MP0R7AN7 (talk) 19:35, 14 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

This whole section appears to be based on the so called Codex Kassai, a manuscript that is supposed to be a sourcebook for the operations of the Inquisition in 13th-15th century Hungary - however this source is considered to be an invention of a 20th century Dominican, Jenő M. Fehér by virtually every historian who dealt with the topic. Imho this section should be removed or completely reworked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Locassen (talkcontribs) 20:47, 17 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

North/East Slavic Vampires

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The article says that "Among the beliefs of the East Slavs, those of the northern regions (i.e. most of Russia) are unique in that their undead, while having many of the features of the vampires of other Slavic peoples, do not drink blood and do not bear a name derived from the common Slavic root for "vampire"."

As far as I can see, the earliest mention in Russian of a vampire is in the primary chronicle (1047), where a priest is called an "upyr likhiy" [1], or wicked vampire. Since the article doesn't say what these Slavs in fact called their vampires, I have to guess that they're talking about "Upyr", which at face, doesn't appear to be the same as "vampire".

If this is the case, the assertion is incorrect - upyr is from the Common Slavic root for vampire, "opiri" [2].

If this is not the case, the word being asserted as not related should be stated, so the statement can be evaluated. If it can't be defended, the statement should be removed or modified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tpiatek360 (talkcontribs) 17:58, 7 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

References

Vampire

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I want to be vampire myself cyrus fernandes 106.220.236.227 (talk) 08:49, 5 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Upior section

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This section looks like a very similar version (if not almost identical) to the Upior section. Seems like a waste to duplicate content that's already from another page into this GA page. Suggest to remove this recently added section. Danial Bass (talk) 21:58, 27 September 2023 (UTC)Reply